Heads Up Buyers – The person who placed the ad is a proven scammer & similar ads have been found for the same animal under different names. The ad I’ve left up for reference & discussion because the scam ads tend use the same descriptions & photos. The people who asked me to place this ad are in no way affiliated with The Equinest, I’ve removed any contact info for them & urge everyone to read the comments for more information.
If you are interested in adopting an animal for minimal cost, why not check out a rescue or two?
Recently I was contacted by a horse owner who has an unfortunate situation and needs to find a good home for his Friesian gelding. He is offering Ebony free to a good home with the assurance the animal will be well cared for.
Meet Ebony
Ebony is a loyal horse, willing, placid and cheerful. He is people oriented, highly intelligent and possesses an uncanny ability to retain knowledge. he can be ridden both Western and English disciplines.
A Little About The Animal
Some of the basics you’ll want to know…
- Up to date with vet and farrier checks
- Energetic & fast learning
- Gets along well with other horses
- He is sound, sane and in good health
A Little About His Action
A Friesian gelding, ebony is a nice example of his breed from what I can tell.
- Walk is straight, forward and springy
- Trots with extreme power and action, bending well and deep at the joints
- His Steps are high and long with lot of “air time’
- His canter is lively with a strong pushing power from the hindquarters
I would love to own this lovely guy to pursue an interest in dressage. Thank you! Devorah
hi Devorah,
this is michael.thanks for the mail,i appreciate your interest.i believe Ebony is going to be in good hands with you.you can get to me directly at
waiting to hear from you.
I don’t live in Texas but in Missouri. I have a quarter horse gelding, Larado. He is 12 yrs old. I don’t ride him much but my husband does. I am more into grooming, feeding, and just spending time with him. I really thought I wanted to ride again, hadn’t done it since I was a kid, and got my first horse a few years ago. Shadow was the worst looking one at the sale barn and when the guy at the barn barked out that the slaughter truck was on its way to pick her up I loaded her up and off we went. Big mistake. I knew nothing about horses, let alone a 6 year old horse that had never been handled. But we eventually found our way together and while she refused to let me ride her, with the exception of the 2 second ride I got when I was stupid enough to climb on her, she did eventually let me lead, bathe, groom and cuddle (cuddle I did with caution)her. She taught me a lot about the nature of horses. I do still ride at times and Shadow moved on with a guy that broke her, but I would like to have another horse and Larado needs a pasture mate. Don’t know if someone of my ability, or inability I guess, would be considered but I would appreciate it if you gave it some thought. Thanks.
hello dear
i got scamed 2 years ago (10220$ could you imagine that on wanting to adopt a chihuahua puppy i’ts a long story) i think these bastards to be sent to hell.i just read from you and you are very fortunate because i just got a job prmotion and i am about to make some relocation.i have twofriesian horses for a new home.
please get backe to me with your detail home adress
your names……….
telphone no……..
street………..
city….
postalcode……….
get back to me with this details so i could know the modalities through which we could meet.
I believe this offer is a scam. You can see a simiar ad posted here. http://www.horseweb.com/horses/classifieds/ads/62058.htm
The pictures and name are the same, but the horse is supposedly in Augusta, Maine. The phone number listed with the ad is area code 755, which is in Shenzhen, in Guangdong Province. That sure ain’t Texas!
Hi B. Hill,
Thanks for your comment, I’m looking into the situation. What “is” the scam?
YOU ARE THE SCAM MY FRIEND!!!
I’m not sure what the scam is, or if there is one. I do believe it’s not a legitimate ad. Nothing about it makes sense!
Hi B. Hill,
I appreciate your vigilance so did some research, but I still can’t see what anyone would have to gain from posting an ad for a horse.
There are other ads for Ebony around the horse web, but it looks to me like they are just using every resource they can to find a home for their animal.
Hopefully everyone will use their common sense and take the same precautions they would take when posting or answering any type of classified ad online.
PLEASE use caution.
I do not believe this is a legitimate ad. If you express interest in the horse you will be contacted by someone else and asked for contact information so they can bill you shipping charges.
Hi B. Hill,
Thanks again for this information. Instead of pulling the ad, I opted to add a warning at the top of the post. I’m hoping that leaving it up and clearly stating the warning I am making the situation known.
If anyone has more information I hope they will speak up too.
I was the first to respond to this ad and I have saved all correspondance with “Michael” who offered the horse to me. First he informed me the horse was located in another state, not Texas. Next he told me I would be responsible for shipping fees and that I would pay the shipper for the transfer of the horse’s registration (makes no sense) and for the cost of shipping. Next he sent me a link to a corporate pet transport service which seemed to specialize in dogs and cats rather than horses. When I told him I would pick up the horse myself and asked for a location, the man seems to have discontinued communications. What would a scammer have to gain in this situation? Bogus fees for transfering a horses registration ($1,500) in this case and shipping fees. While I would like to believe better of Michael, it became very clear to me that this is a scam. Of course, I would like very much for him to prove me wrong. In the meantime, I have several really nice mares to legitimately place with someone who is capable of providing them a quality home. If interested, email me at DominionRacing@live.com. Thank You, Devorah
I had the same experience. The name of the person was Beltline Torres. They told me the horse was in Colorado, then changed the horse location to Florida. They mixed up the name of the horse. First, the horse’s name was Shaun, then the horse’s name was Miki.
The scam was that there was the courier fee ($749) for the transporation. I didn not give them any personal information, but it would have been easy to, if I hadn’t had experience using the internet.
I really did want the horse! I was willing to pay for it. I just can’t afford a real Friesian. The good news is that I have started looking for a cross Friesian, because of the ad and correspondence.
Thanx for posting the information. It is good information to know.
Same thing just happened to me! I was scammed last year on my birthday so I am aware of never giving out any information ever again, but there was a lady who “got in a car accident, and needed to give away her beautiful 16hh 6 yr dressage trained friesian… How did this not raise flags right away. Then as she responded to me she sent pictures of a man riding and then a woman, and the location changed to Washington state. I also really wanted this gelding, he sounded amazing. I don’t understand whyyy people do this?!??!?!??!! Its so frustrating!!!!
Oh yes name of the person & email was “Cute Girlly” c.girlly@yahoo.com The horses name was Miley. This just happened today. LOOK OUT!
Thank you for posting this, I was just contacted by this person too, I was looking for a horse to replace the horse I’m having to put down for the genetic disease HERDA found in Quarterhorses.
I began to be suspicious because I couldn’t get straight answers regarding the horse, Because first stating that I had to pay the shipper, but she just moved to Seattle, WA which is 3 hours from me and when I suggested that I had a friend located in Pasco who could pick up the horse for me, but she didn’t want that; then she wasn’t info about payment arrangements became mixed up when about the money arrangements between paying her and the shipper, because I could not do this at this time fortunate for me. When I had red flags began to rise, ‘bad english’ when given my phone number, person would not call nor give me her and her supposedly husband’s phone number, nor her name, but had mine and but they didn’t give me theirs. I went searching on the net to find if there was an email scam on the internet about Friesan “Miley”; Thank you for reporting it last Jan/2011, This is June/2011 and they are doing it again…claiming accident, all of it.. Thanks, you helped to save me from making a BIG mistake!
the advertisement is out again on Equines4us.com “Miley – Friesian Horse Black Gelding – by cgirlly”
Ahhh. How interesting to see how widespread animal scams are!
They are found in most affluent countries in the world. The scammers post ads on cats, dogs, horses, fish, ferrets, birds, monkeys and other animals. Their language is extremely basic English and when Google-translated it becomes even worse. They have a base in Kameroun. They simply LOVE Western Union. They earn their money by taking advanced fees for transport. The pictures of the animals are always fantastic.
People, take care! This is international, organised crime. Talk to schoolmates, family and friends about scams. Spread the word!
We cannot stop them, but we can make life a bit more difficult for these people.
Hi there.
I live in South Africa, Cape Town. This horse was introduced to me by a lady called Elizabeth. He is exactly the same horse as in the pictures, with the same rider, except his name was Teddy. After much communication, “Elizabeth” phoned us, and spoke very broken communication. Nothing about what she was saying made sense and a day later we were called by the “transport” company who sounded much like a male version of “Elizabeth” and told us we should send the payments and the horse will be delivered. When we googled the company, they didn’t exist. They sent us a website along with their banking details, but said we may only pay through Western Union bank. We had to pay the full price before the horse even left. Elizabeth told us that he was in Botswana, but the company was in Cameroon. It all sounded very strange and when we googled it, we found many different ads for this same horse, with the same pictures and in different countries, but listed under different names. Three names he was listed as were “Ebony, Treasure and Teddy.” This is certainly a scam. What is gained is that when you pay the actual fee for transport, it goes directly to the scammers and the horse doesn’t arrive. You can find more about it here:
http://www.equine.com/scam-alert.aspx
Hallo Amber,
We were very excited about this ad as we are looking for a fresian or schoolmaster for the my childern to ride. Our Thoroughbred is just too old now.
I found the ad in Cape Town’s Junkmail and contacted the person. From the looks of the picture I thought the location of the horse could be Constantia, Cape Town. I was very surpised when the reply came from Botswana from a Mabeth Lauren Botha.She called him Treasure. Everything was fishy about it from then on. I asked for more recent photo’s hoping to find the horse in the typical arid Botswana landscape but the Netherland’s landscape kept on popping up with pure white Dutch riders! They wanted us to pay shipping fees but I suggested that they pay the shipping fees and that we get a vet out on arrival to declare the horse sound. Then we will gladly repay shipping costs. Not a word from them since then. I actually enjoyed catching them out. They even sent photo’s of other horses in Botswana landscape to try and prove a point but no Fresian! Then photo’s of cakes with horse pictures on to prove they’re the real deal. They also went on about his dressage abilities and that they will send his shoes, two saddles, bridle,diet program vet’s documents, passport etc. According to them no quarentine was needed as the two countries are next to each other! Do they think we are stupid or what?!
Anyway, we had fun! By the way we are still looking for a schoolmaster if you know one let me know!
Hi Annalie,
I wish I saw your add beforehand, I fell for this scam and we are in the process of stopping our R5000 transfer to “her” account.
I feel good that I realized this before it was too late but what I really wish is that this person would be caught out and prosecuted.
Hi there,
I’ve also replied to the same Macbeth Laura Botha!.the horses name is now Marco!,the pictures look like somewhere overseas as the child on the horse definitely looks foreign!, what is totally wrong is the fact that she now is saying she is a Pastor and that she lives in Botswana.I was on to her straight away.when she wrote about that the horse will come with shoes for riding a helmet etc, and that this amazing horse is for free!!!!!
Why are there so many disturbed people in this world!, Go out and get a proper honest living please!!!!!
Scammer:Mabetha Laura Botha email Malabotha@gmail.com
Horses Name is Marco.
9 year old Friesian Gelding.
Thanks for the info Devorah, I hope everyone will read these comments so they are aware of these types of scams.
hi kelly, thanks for your interest.you can get to me through my
waiting to hear from you.
this is not a scam.i’m just trying to sell my horse.
hello what kind of horse do you have? and where are you located?
Hi Michael,
Just to clarify the add said that the horse was “free” and in this statement, you said you wanted to sell him.
Is the horse “free” or is he for sale and if so what is the price?
Thank you for clearing this up. I am still very interested in the horse.
Devorah
On HorseWeb, the ad you posted said “financial situation is the reason why i want to give him for free to a good home where he can be well catered for.”
So yes, we would all like to know how much he costs now. Is he available to be picked up? Also, where IS Ebony?
hi Devorah,
thanks for the reply.i believe you do know the cost of Ebony.i told i was giving him away for $1500.it’s all left for you to decide.if you think this is a scam,no problem but if not,you know how to get to me.
thank you
im all the way in uk and this same horse is up for sale as two different horses in 2 different states, ive been asked to pay delivery of the horse, i was really looking forward to owning him but from the word go i knew it was a scam once i recieved pictures from 2 people with the same horse, i belive he pretends to be a horse transprter takes ur moeny and runs? i mean if i had a horse i loved dearly i would most defently want to see were it was going and meet and speak to the person it was going to, the horse offered to me on the 1st email for all he knew could be the meat man!!!! VERY INSANE
This same ad is now all over dreamhorse.com I became very leary when the owner (in this case freddy) was in Tenn, the ad orriginated as TX and the horse was supposed to be in Il. My guess is they are trying to get you to send money for shipping. I have been requesting the address for the farm where the horse is located for days. The pics are the same as a horse that has been offered for “Adoption” in the UK. He looks like too nice a horse for someone to give away also. Freddy claimed he did not believe in selling animals.
What a shame. It’s one thing to prey on greedy people who fall for the “don’t tell anyone and I’ll share the million dollars with you” scam. But to take advantage of horse lovers who are trying to save a beautiful animal, it’s really low. I hope NO ONE falls victim, but I fear they’re making money hand over fist.
hes still trying to get me to send him money reckons the horse is waiting in a haulers, i was really excited but realised that it was all too good to be true!! thanks to this ad i could confirm my thoughts on it been a scam, so many thanks xx
wow,
there is a woman who i have been emailing back and forth with about this horse named welly. i told her i was located in the new england area. she said that she used to live in new england but because of a back injury she had to relocate in texas! she spoke in broken english but she knew so much about this horse! it was, obviously, free. she is trying to get me to tell her what my adress, full name, and phone number is so that she can ship it to me and then have ME pay them? makes NO sense. im going to tell her to give me her adress because i dont feel comftorble giving out personal info. i dont know how she will react but from the rest of these emails i can tell that she wont give me her adress. :/ its so wrong to pray on people who truely love these graceful animals and tell them to give you money!!! thanks y’all!
i am very interested in ebony i alresdy have a horse and i would only want him for light hacks i ride my horse every day apart from sundays so he gets a reast i have always wanted a freisian as i think they are amazing animals please contact me asap many thanks lindsey.
This horse ( if healthy) would be much too valuable to give away.If the owner wanted to ensure a good home they would sell it for a very fair price (still high compared to your regular backyard horse – at the very least 5-6000 (from what it looks like it would be much higher) . Anyone paying a price like that would ensure the horse has a good home. No one would give this breed of horse away. This horse looks like it would be registered – ask for the registration number and then contact the registry. Looks very much like a scam. Ask them to send another picture with a newspaper from the local town attached to the saddle ( so you can see the headline) – it just might help if you are really interested in pursuing -at least you would know there was a horse and were it was that day.
Hi Judy,
Thanks for your comment and the helpful tips. Hopefully readers will read them and take heed.
We replied to an add for the same hore but from an emily hunt and we said we wanted to pick up the horse and they wanted to ship it and for us to pay the shipping charges. They didn’t want to call us just said the shipping company would contact us.
Hi all this is what I believe is a scam they have posted similar scams in the UK using business, illness etc then wanting you to pay for shipping, they also try ans ascertain as much personal information as possiblehis could lead to a identity fraud. Please be mindful if anything seems to be good to be true it usually is. I try to spend about hour a week looking for similar ads and reporting them to the website, because I am so angry and what they try to do to innocent people.
THIS IS A SCAM!!!!
I TALK TO THE SUPPOSED OWNER WHO WAS PUTTING THE HORSE UP FOR ADOPTION , JUST PAY FOR HIS SHIPPING(850.00)AND ONLY A WALMART MONEY GRAM WILL BE EXCEPTED
HE HAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT NAMES ,SPIKEY,
HYLER,ANDY AND A FEW MORE. HE IS LISTED ON HIGHCOUNTRY.COM
AS SPIKEY.
THESE PEOPLE DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HORSES. SO PLEASE BEWARE
I HAVE HER ADDRESS AND A PHONE # HER NAME IS ???
EVA GOOD BURNS AND HER E-MAIL IS EVA<97977797@GMAIL.COM
HER BROTHER??? PRATEATON52@YAHOO.COM
DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE STILL THERE .IT WOULD BE STUPID
OF THEM IF THEY STILL ARE
SANDY
Just responded to an ad to buy a fresian for $1500. Once the person contacted me via email, they said they were looking for someone to adopt their horse. Went on to mention a back injury, 3 years in a wheel chair, had to move to Washington to be with parents, etc. Something just didn’t add up. I was sent a bunch of photos, and they’re the same photos that show up above. The horses name on this posting was Ayala.
Just read the same ad on equine.com wanted $2000 for friesian. Ad said they were in FL, but when I said I was interested the horse it would be free if i payed shipping $1000, because horse is in washington! I knew it was too good to be true. Can’t get a friesian for free! that doesn’t happen.
Well, those criminals are just about everywhere! They started “small” with puppy frauds — now they try to steal money from horse lovers! There are no pets — just greedy criminal who will ask you to send money gram via Wal-Mart or Western Union. When you do that, you can kiss your founds Good Buy!
Just ignore any suspicious offers or better yet immediately report any offers (that are not from a safe place where you can go in person) to authorities. Internet is flooded with trained scammers from Cameroon, Nigeria, Kenya and recently from Spain — some of those criminals have contacts in United States, so be very careful to whom you give your personal information
I just came across the very same situation on another website. The woman said the horse was in another country and just wanted to find the horse a good home and all I needed to do was give my name, address, phone number and closest airport and they would send the horse to me if I agreed to pay the $1,100.00 shipping fee. MAJOR SCAM ! !
Totally a scam.
the horse is also listed all over as Jack.
when pressed they refuse to let you see horse or ship it yourself. they want you to pay shipping, that’s all! Ya, right. And they are on some religious retreat and cannot see anyone (but have internet access…. um)
I’ve contacted authorities. My son was so excited and urged me to contact the ad. Oh well. Live and learn
You are all shamless, greedy scammers from Cameroon!
YES!!!!! IT A TYPICAL WEST AFRICAN SCAM! JUST GOOGLE THEIR E-ADDRESS AND CHECK THEIR IP – ALWAYS SHOWS FROM CAMEROON – LAND OF SHAMELESS CRIMINALS!
Greetings,
Please find below an exchange of emails I have had with the webmaster of the EquineNow.com website. As you will see, I was also fooled by a fraudulent Friesian advert.
Thankfully, while awaiting a reply to my request for further information about a Friesian gelding, I happened to discover your remarkable public discussion about this previously undetected equine scam.
If anyone needed an example of the power of public input, this Ebony Friesian Scam alert certainly fills the bill.
Armed with this information, I entered into a positive exchange with the webmaster of the EquineNow website, who is now taking strong steps to stop the infiltration of that site by these unscrupulous crooks.
That exchange is beneath my signature.
best wishes,
CuChullaine O’Reilly
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Date: 2009-09-21 16:02:03
Name: CuChullaine O’Reilly
Message:
Hello,
My name is CuChullaine O’Reilly. I am the Founder of the international equestrian exploration organization, the Long Riders’ Guild, the publisher of more than 300 equestrian books, an international equestrian investigative reporter and the webmaster for numerous academic equine websites.
I mention these facts so as to demonstrate the depth of my knowledge of the equestrian world, as well as to alert you to the fact that your website was misused by equestrian crooks.
Earlier today I became a victim of a Friesian ‘for sale’ scam which is being operated on your website.
It was only by chance that I happened to discover another website which listed emails from other victims. The information provided there provided me with the evidence needed to learn that I had been set up by a fraudulent seller.
Upon returning to your website I discovered that you have created a well worded warning about this Friesian scam.
My question is, because you certainly know your website is being repeatedly misused in this manner, why don’t you publish this warning above each Friesian page instead of burying it deep inside your website?
Such a placement/warning would instantly have alerted me, and doubtless hundreds of other well-meaning potential buyers, to the risks we were being exposed to.
It would also serve as a deterrent to the crooks who are turning your website into an accomplice for crime.
If I hear back from the criminals, I will be in touch with the police bunco squad at Graham, Texas, where the imaginary horse is supposedly living.
Your input into this internet fraud is of grave concern to me and I would appreciate your reply at your earliest convenience.
Thank you.
CuChullaine O’Reilly FRGS
http://www.thelongridersguild.com
http://www.theworldride.org
http://www.horsetravelbooks.com
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Date: 2009-09-21 21:19:47
Name: EquineNow Support
Message:
That’s a good suggestion. I’ll have the programmers add some wording and then link to our fraud page. I’d like to make sure the ad you are talking about is removed from our site. Do you have the Ad ID# or URL? We remove ads daily, as well as taking steps to ‘ban’ sellers who post questionable ads. Unfortunately, many of the scammers work their way around the block/ban, so its a never ending battle.
Best regards,
EquineNow Support
http://www.equinenow.com
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Date: 2009-09-22 14:41:56
Name: CuChullaine O’Reilly
Message:
Hello,
Thanks for getting back to me regarding this devilish method of preying on the public’s trust. Having spent months searching on both sides of the Atlantic for a suitable gelding for my upcoming ride around the world, I was very excited to have apparently discovered a seller who had the perfect horse for my 12,000 mile journey.
You can imagine my disappointment when later that day I discovered the photograph from your website, which purported to depict the Friesian ‘gelding’ I was awaiting a reply on, was being used to hustle an imaginary Friesian mare on another sale site.
That discovery in turn led to a quick check of the internet, wherein was revealed a site where other concerned horse buyers had pooled their discoveries about this Nigerian-style internet horse scam.
Here is a link to that important discussion.
http://www.theequinest.com/friesian-in-texas/
While awaiting your reply I discovered that other internet equine sale sites are also being polluted by this scam.
One such example pretends to have a Friesian at Fargo, North Dakota and lists this phone number 856-282-0952. But a quick check reveals that this is actually a New Jersey area number.
http://www.horseville.com/php/view.php?id=225647
A check of your website just now reveals that the two Friesians which originally drew my attention, named Ype and JK, seem to have been withdrawn. This is just as well as, if the scammers had replied to my query, I planned to telephone the chief of police, and local newspaper editor in Graham, Texas, where the Friesian was supposedly located, so as to alert these local authorities to how their town was being used as a cover for this quickly spreading scam.
While the ad that drew my attention yesterday seems to have been withdrawn, your website is hosting an interesting ad for a Friesian which claims it is “almost gated.” Despite my many years of equine experience I’ve yet to meet an animal with this rare architectural description.
Nevertheless this imaginary Friesian is available for the an affordable $1000.
http://www.equinenow.com/horse-ad-o1528925572
What I believe is another strong indication of fraud is that, like many of these phony Friesian ads, this seller provides no name or contact info but does pretend to supply a You Tube video. Yet a check at You Tube only takes you to a general page, with no horse footage provided. So this is another clue as to the scammer’s method.
Meanwhile, there are pages of other obviously phony Friesian ads still listed on your website. The one listing “Very feminine face, petite build,” seems to have strayed over from a cowgirl-singles website.
http://www.equinenow.com/horse-ad-o1540689458
Other obvious examples, include a “two for one” pair of sale-priced Freisians. Here are some examples which could almost certainly be removed immediately.
http://www.equinenow.com/horse-ad-o1444469612
http://www.equinenow.com/horse-ad-o1554091663
http://www.equinenow.com/horse-ad-o1499094657
A visit to your website just now has revealed that you have placed the words “Beware of scam ads” at the top of each page. But as a webmaster myself, could I suggest that you clarify the wording to read “BEWARE SCAM FRIESIAN ADS.”
Anyone using the internet will recognize the deliberate use of capital letters and visit the suggested link.
Moreover, such a strident warning will immediately discourage scammers, who will realize that their secret has been exposed.
In conclusion, your website is providing a valuable service to buyers and sellers alike, so it is certainly disappointing to have to spend time patrolling against these obnoxious low-level pony parasites.
However, as money may have indeed been illegally enticed from the public via your website’s ads, I trust you will now ensure that you will take the steps necessary to protect genuine buyers and sellers from this type of blatant abuse.
Many thanks for your attention to this matter.
CuChullaine O’Reilly FRGS
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Date: 2009-09-22 17:05:59
Name: EquineNow Support
Message:
Thanks for your input. The ads you link to above are all from a third party feed called Oodle, and if you click on one of those ads you are taken to the site that the seller placed the ad on (which wouldn’t be ours). As I said, our site as well as the others are continually removing known scam ads, as you have seen by returning to the ads that originally caught your attention.
Again, thanks for the suggestions…
Best regards,
EquineNow Support
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Many thanks to everyone who has taken the time to comment about this situation. I’m hoping your comments will convince any buyer to move on to greener pastures.
Please post this I have found this scam in North Carolina as well. If you check any of these sites you will see Fresian horses for under $1500. The latest is Tango listed by Marcelo Biglante. In this scam he claims he and his wife have been in a car accisent and are no longer able to ride. Another recent scam I came across was a lady in South Carolina who claims she moved to Utah because her son was recently killed in a car accident and the horse reminds her of him. Again both parties lie about their actual location and want money for thed transport, saying the balance of the horse will only be paid upon delivery if you are completely satisfied. These people are complete scum! DO NOT FALL INTO THEIR TRAP!!! Here is the last email Marcelo sent today:
Hi there
Many thanks for the mail and happy to read from you .Well i must say i am impressed from your reply and i think you will make the perfect home for my gelding .to give you more information about his performance and character , i must say he is the best i have ever had. He is pure sweety that likes to be cuddled and on the other hand he wants to please you. He is very intelligent and gentle. Super social and not afraid of traffic, dogs and children but still a young horse of course. He has absolute potential .He is a sweet and well handled boy in all the ways. He star ted his training a little while ago and is so easy with taking up new work. Will make – within the shortest time – an excellent family horse or best friend for life! Full motherline, baroque built and super character .I assure you that you will get the best gelding ever . He will come with his passport and all tacks accompanied .He will come with two saddles , brindles and Bits .Rugs and blanket shall accompany him.He is UTD on his coggins and will come with his health guarantee . But all i need from you is the assurance that you will take proper care of him and send me updated photos of the friesian every after two months . I will definitely let you have the gelding but will like to know when you are fit to come for the pick up.Presently i am located in Oakland California where i have been primarily transferred to work with the Kinship Child Adoption center . Though i am due to resume my duty , i will like that he is taken to his new home since i intend to dedicate my self and do my work .So i will like to know when you are ready to come for the pick up .If coming to pick up will be stressful , then i will advice you come over with a trailer of your choice to haul him to your home .You will have to pay just for the reservation of the gelding before coming over and that will cost $350 .That will be payable to me to reserve him for you .Well i can still arrange for the hauling of the friesian over to you .Hauling of the friesian over to you will cost just $840 . That will be paid to the hauling agency that i will prefer to use and not to me and they will tell you how you will have to send the money for the gelding to be hauled over to you .If you prefer that i have him hauled over , then the price of the friesian will be paid only when he arrive safely and is in good health. there will be no reservation .If that is ok with you then i will have to register the gelding at the agency and they have him delivered over to you as soon as possible .I will need your personal information so that i have him registered in your name and address . the details needed are
Your full names……………………….
Your city………………………….
Home address/Delivery address………………….
Zip code…………………………………………
Mobile telephone number……………..
Landline telephone number…………………….
When i have all these details , i will then take him to the agency and do the registration . when i am done , i will get back to you as soon as possible and the agency will also contact you through email and phone on how shipment will proceed and how payments work.I will make sure i use a reliable hauling agency and they will have him hauled over.
Regards and hope to read from you as soon as possible
The add for the friesian Tango is now on craig’s list. They have refined the scam. Now they ask $15,000 and say “scammer will be reported.” My daughter inquired about a swap, and they went along with it, but I knew I’d heard about this horse as a scam, so I wrote and said I wanted the horse. I was told it’d be going to a high end auction (2 days away) so they wanted me to wire the money. I finally let loose on the scammer, who claimed to be a mother of a 6 yr old, but from her responses, it was clear it’s a scam…beware! They are getting better at this with pics and bloodlines.
Just found your discussion on this scam-and indeed, it is a scam. My conversation with EVA GOOD ended with “I’ll forward my address to you, when can you come out?” This time, she is living in Billings, MT. I’m glad to find your site.
I hope they can find these fakes so maybe they will be put in jail.
Eva called me a few weeks ago not knowing I had talked to her before. I had little fun with her before she hung up on me.I couldn’t get back with # she called from.
I wish I could have gotten more info, but I did’t.
Sorry everyone.
Yuup, too good to be true is right on the bucket. We’ve been having an exchange with a supposed Mr (Mrs.?) Torres for about two days when the whole shipping deal came up. My dad (not being an English speaker) became way too excited before really giving it some thought. So they called us, and the man that called had a VERY heavy Indian accent. Umm hello? I know they send our jobs overseas but seriously. Here is a part of the letter.
[[[Hello ,
Thanks for the mail and interest on my friesian gelding .rex is
already taken . But i still have another friesian gelding
(Tango).Tango and is 16.2 hands 7 years old .He will come with all
health papers and one year health guarantee. this gelding {Tango} is
not only beautiful, completely healthy and sound, great, sane, trail
horse deluxe! has awesome four beat gaits.I am taking my horse off
the market as a riding horse as i do not have a rider for him since i
was involved in a car accident with my wife and both of us can’t ride
anymore , therefore i am unable to take video’s of him being ridden .;
This super gelding has the most amazing paces. His walk is huge with a
great over track. His trot is off the
floor, uphill, floating & extremely big. he has a fab canter which is
powered from behind. Tango has a lovely temperament. he is good in all
respects. he will travel in a trailer or lorry & is happy to stand in
the box munching hay at shows. he will hack out alone & in company.. he
is very forward when hacking so wouldn`t be suitable for a novice. he
has been cantered in open spaces & is very well behaved. When hacking
alone he has a good imagination but is not silly with it. Tango has
been lightly competed. Judges love him.. he always gets fab comments
like super paces (normaly receiving 8`s). In his last outing he
received 80% in a intro test being the winner in a class of 14!!Tango went through professional training. There he learned all the lateral movements & performs them very
well indeed. he is how ever rusty on Half pass as i am not sure how to
do this. he has an amazing medium trot as well. Recently a friend had
started training him in changes, he would still need more
training to perfect this but looked like he would pick this up with
ease. he has had regular coaching with Steven Cruikshank who is a
class 2 dressage judge. Tango can jump, but this is not my thing so he
could do with further education on this subject.
Before i brought him home from Germany when he was 2, he was
professionally trained & was put through his gelding performance with
super results. he scored the following; WALK 8. TROT 7. CANTER 7.
RIDABILITY 7 & 8. JUMPING2 X 7. he has full pink papers & is branded.
My Husband was an experienced beginner and he really enjoyed riding
where as I am an experienced rider and also enjoy riding tango. So
therefore, I am sure that it will be great for just about any riding
level from experienced beginner on up the scale. I also know that
tango would make a fantastic field trial horse if someone was
interested in him for that because tango has great endurance and
listens so well. I want tango to find a great home and will only sell
to such a home. Also, tango is fine with other horses or without them.
He has lived in a boarding situation before and did just as well as he
does in a private home situation.up to date on vaccines and dental
care. I don’t know what else I can say about tango other than if you
are looking for a horse that will be the same everyday and bring you
hours of enjoyment whether out on the trail or in the pasture then, it
might be the horse for you! I thought I would go ahead and post him so
that somebody could start enjoying him during the nice Fall weather
that is soon approaching ..Before i let you have the gelding i will
like to know the following
Have you ever had a horse before ??
Do you own a Ranch??
Are you an experienced Rider or a Beginner??
How soon do you need this gelding ??
Where are you located ??
I am asking all these question so as to make sure that the gelding
gets into the hands of some one who will take proper care of the
gelding ..Do email me when you shall come to test ride and take the
horse along. Tango is for $1400 .please do email me when you are
ready to come over for test riding and pick up .find attached to this
mail some a picture of tango my Friesian Gelding .Please do email me
when you are fit to come over so that we arrange meeting
Thanks and waiting to read from you ]]]
First of all, it starts off as a male speaker — then switches to a female speaker half way. Later on when I ask WHY they have a spanish e-mail (the heading was actually in spanish) and they said they were Italian, knew English and Italian but not Spanish. ??? Then things got too.. iffy. Which culminated in me finding this site (many thanks to all who have shared btw, saved us almost a thousand dollars!) and sending a ‘personal’ email to the seller. I may be 17, but I’m not one to fall for silly games like these.
I recenetly had the same person reply to me Marisol!! and I called them out on the switching from husband to wife!! we will see if they reply haha.
has awesome four beat gaits? all right anyone with equine experience would know that a freisian does not gait! let alone have awesome 4 beat gaits! a canter is a 2 or 3 beat gait.. and that right there is a sign its a scam His walk is huge with a
great over track.(i do believe thats not a good thing :S His trot is off the floor, uphill, floating & extremely big.(hard to ride much?!) he has a fab canter which is powered from behind.(i would hope so, and this guy almost sounds gay with the FAB canter) ok so i have worked with many horses.. and even ridden gaited ones.. this is NOT a freisian! it sounds like a gaited mule that has a habbit of kicking itself in the head when it walks!
THIS SAME BASTARD TRIED TO SCAM ME! check it email adresss Felixrush20@hotmail.com
HE TOLD ME HE WAS LOCATED @ 4700 42nd Ave SW #600, Seattle, WA, United States WHICH IS THE ADRESS OF A REALESTATE FIRM! THE BLOODY SCUMM.!!! HERE IS THE LINK TO THE “FRESIAN ADD”
HERE IS THE ENTIRE THREAD:
ME:Hello! I found your add on oodle. Im writing to ask if you have any 16 + hand horses that are sutable for eventing or hunter – jumper. I love fresians and have wanted a horse since I was a little girl. I know that warmbloods are the typical hunter horse but I have allways ha a love o fresians. I ride three times a week @ oakwell farms equestian center in san antonio tx and I am super intrested in your offer. I would be able to care for the horse and with one if my own i vould ride daily. Are the horses actually for free? Are you concidering leasing – buying. I need a experienced horse because Im not quite an advanced rider yet. Please contact me. would love to do business!
ASSHOLE: Thanks for the mail and interest on my friesian gelding . I have just
one left . His name is Tango .He will come with all health papers and
one year health guarantee. this gelding {Tango} is not only beautiful,
completely healthy and sound, great, sane, trail horse deluxe! has
awesome four beat gaits.I am taking my horse off the market as a
riding horse as i do not have a rider for him since i was involved in
a car accident with my husband and both of us can’t ride anymore ,
therefore i am unable to take video’s of him being ridden .; This
super gelding has the most amazing paces. His walk is huge with a
great over track. His trot is off the floor, uphill, floating &
extremely big. he has a fab canter which is powered from behind. Tango
has lovely temperament. he is good in all respects. he will travel in
a trailer or lorry & is happy to stand in the box munching hay at
shows. he will hack out alone & in company. he is very forward when
hacking so wouldn`t be suitable for a novice. he has been cantered in
open spaces & is very well behaved. When hacking alone he has a good
imagination but is not silly with it. Tango has been lightly competed.
Judges love him.. he always gets fab comments like super paces
(normally receiving 8`s). he is how ever rusty on Half pass as i am
not sure how to do this. he has an amazing medium trot as well.
Recently a friend had started training him in changes, he would still
need more training to perfect this but looked like he would pick this
up with ease. he has had regular coaching with a friend who is a class
2 dressage judge. Tango can jump, but this is not my thing so he could
do with further education on this subject.
He was professionally trained & was put through his gelding
performance with super results. he scored the following; WALK 8. TROT
7. CANTER 7. RIDABILITY 7 & 8. JUMPING2 X 7. he has full pink papers &
is branded.
My Wife was an experienced beginner and he really enjoyed riding him
where as I am an experienced rider and also enjoy riding Tango . So
therefore, I am sure that it will be great for just about any riding
level from experienced beginner on up the scale. I also know that
Tango would make a fantastic field trial horse if someone was
interested in him for that because Tango has great endurance and
listens so well. I want Tango to find a great home and will only sell
to such a home. Also, Tango is fine with other horses or without them
.He has lived in a boarding situation before and did just as well as
he does in a private home situation .up to date on vaccines and dental
care . I don’t know what else I can say about Tango other than if you
are looking for a horse that will be the same everyday and bring you
hours of enjoyment whether out on the trail or in the pasture then, it
might be the horse for you! I thought I would go ahead and post him so
that somebody could start enjoying him .Before i let you have the
gelding i will like to know the following
Have you ever had a horse before ??
Do you own a Ranch??
Are you an experienced Rider or a Beginner??
How soon do you need this gelding ??
Where are you located ??
I am asking all these question so as to make sure that the gelding
gets into the hands of some one who will take proper care of the
gelding ..Do email me when you shall come to test ride and take the
horse along. Tango is for $1200.
Thanks and waiting to read from you
ME:would you mind sending me pictures?
what is his height – age?
ello again! tango sounds fabulous!
as for his height? Im 5’10” so i might look a little funny on a tiny horse. this will be my first horse. But I will board him at oak well farms or at my families 8000 acre ranch in three rivers texas ( we are building a horse facility) I have been riding for three years and I am a 16 year old girl. I love horses and really want a horse of my own. Your horse sounds fantastic! I live in San Antonio, Alamo Heights. Where exactly are you located? what are the best times for a test ride regarding your schedule? I will have to check him out in person before i make my decision.
(IT GETS WEIRDER….. FIRST IT WAS A BOY NAMED TANGO NOW IT IS A MARE… READ ONN)
DOUCHEBAG: Fits t i wanna apologies for getting back to you this late,i was out for a part,a friend birthday,and i am just coming back.I have seen your emails and i am impressed with the interest you are showing for this baby.She is very ready to go now.Below is my address feel free to come over anytime to have your test of ride.
4700 42nd Ave SW #600, Seattle, WA, United States
But we have her trained in a mode that both beginners and experience riders will enjoy her,we are given here for 1600including delivery charge and she will be coming with all her paper works.I have attached some of her photos below,just gt back to us as when you will be coming to view,and test your ride or we should just make a delivery arrangement.
Regards
THREE INADGES SENT: 1) https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=be570b098b&view=att&th=130078cac4d302b6&attid=0.1&disp=inline&zw
2) https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=be570b098b&view=att&th=130078cac4d302b6&attid=0.2&disp=inline&zw
3) https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=be570b098b&view=att&th=130078cac4d302b6&attid=0.3&disp=inline&zw
ME: I thought you guys were in texas…. arent yall @ wintercrest? im trying to get a horse close to home….. our add on oodle said you were located in windcrest texas, which is in san antonio. Im not sure if I feel comfortable with your constant information changes. 1st the horse was a boy named tango now its a mare? first he was 1200 and now SHE is 1600? im not shure this is a legitamate deal. thanks for trying- regards. and second you have yet to tell me the exact age- height of this horse. this may be my first horse but I know how business works.
JERK: Hiya( WHAT IS HE CHINEESE???),i am very sorry if that created any inconvenient.I am ready to you this baby with relevant paper work and warranty,i know she will be happy with and so you will be with her,so you don’t find one closer and you intent buy irrespective of the distance,please get back to me.
ME: Im not intrested- not because of the distance or tge horse but because of your lack and constant changing of infirmation thanks- mam
FUGG: She s 7years old and of height 16h.h.Hiya you have to get back to me please,i really my baby will be homeless if she don’t goes to your home.Please do something about this. (WHAT A FREEK? ) Its my problem he needs to scam people for his own needs? LOOSERRR
ME:that sounds like a personal problem. Im not the scam artist who is
pretending to have speech problems. May god have mercy on your soul.
using a cheep “horse” add to scam money out of innocent people I
should report you. Oh and the poor pitiful me I have been in a car
accident… and now I cant speak english and now the horse is more in
price… now i live in seattle… and you have to get my horse or else
?. I don’t have to do anything, but report your sorry ass to the
authorities. I highly doubt you even have a horse to sell. Because YOU
said it was 1200 and a gelding named tango NOW your saying its a girl?
for 1600 NO THANK YOU even for free NO THANKS. You are a horrible liar
and a horrible human being. A Poor person wouldn’t own a FRIESIAN and
you live in washington now? did you move since the time you posted the
add two days ago? Wind crest TEXAS is that where your sorry ass
actually lives? because I will find you and report you. Im Not falling
for you scam. And i will make sure no one else will. And this whole
feel sorry for me with your spelling? wow seriously? you expect me to
believe you are a foreigner when the 1st email had normal spelling?
Gosh you are too horrid for words. And you think im that stupid? THOSE
PICTURES ARE FROM GOOGLE SMART ASS! Im 16 and I can figure out your
cheap ass lie! Good luck because no one will believe this SHIT. Ill do
something about .. your lame lie! ill sick the POLICE on your ass! as
a threat to the general public and a con artist. no wonder their are
no VIDEOS because you don’t have any horses! HA! You are pitiful. get
a life, and a job.
Please post you complains at http://fraudwatchers.org
Also had an exchange with these people, just seemed too good to be true, a freesian for 900 pounds. TANGO as his name was at this time was supposed to be in Cumbria then all of a sudden he was in the Isle of Wight. Horse hunter have taken this ad from their website now. Wish I could get my hands on these people Id throw them to my dogs as a treat.
DO UNDERSTAND ONE THING:
THOSE PSYCHOPATHS WOULD RATHER SELL A HORSE FOR MEAT – IF THEY HAD ONE THEN POST IT FOR AN ADOPTION!
THEY ARE PATHOLOGICAL LAYER’S, SCAMMERS, CRIMINALS WHO WOULD SELL THEIR OWN CHILD, SISTER OR MOTHER TO A PROSTITUTION RING!
DO NOT HAVE ANY SENTIMENTS WITH THOSE PARASITES!!
THEY ARE NOT HUMANS NOR ANIMALS – ANIMALS NOT NOT DO HARM!
JUST DO ALL OF US CIVILISED PEOPLE A FAVOR – POST INFORMATION ABOUT THOSE SCUMBAGS CRIMES EVERYWHERE!
Hi
I live in the UK and these scammers use the same scam’s over and over again. I answered an ad wanting more info about a gelding offered at £1500. I knew immediately from the response that it was a scam. The seller had poor English, they reduced the price without asking and wanted to get the horse transported and I pay when it arrived. I am much too long in the tooth to fall for such a poor scam, but I played along, gave them false details etc, until I had played long enough and informed them I knew their I.P address, could track them and that I had notified the advertising site of their scams. I also took the opportunity to increase their English vocabulary with words to describe them, not readily available in the English dictionary!! If a horse appears to be too cheap..then be wary. Nobody in their right mind should EVER agree to part with money or personal details to purchase a horse they had not been out to see, test ride, examine the passport and proof of ownership and have vetted. I just bought a horse from Spain, but not without speaking to the seller and taking a trip out to Benidorm to view and ride it. I reported another Scam regarding Friesians I saw today, the picture ‘stolen’ from a reputable site in Holland. I posted the web page to them for their information and notified the advertising site. Use common sense and if something looks too good to be true, then it most likely is!! REPORT THESE LOW LIFES and DO NOT GIVE THEM YOUR HARD EARNED CASH!!
This horse is now being advertised in WA as “Dupy” and/or “Denzeli” from someone using the email “bruniogrocio@yahoo.com”. The shipping company they want you to use is internationalequinehaulers.tk
Oh My God…. This lady is now using the name Kent for her friesian. Her add states he is a 6 yr old stallion and she said she was in a wheel chair and can’t ride… I reported her and tracked the computer she was using to respond to me. What a joke!!! who does this. I will post the reply she sent me. I beat her at her own game LOL, I used different emails to trap her… In fact I will post all her reply’s
Friesian Horse For Adoption?
From: jenniferkalex@aol.com
Sent: October 9, 2009 3:40:22 PM
To: dowshannon22@hotmail.com
hello,
i was very pleased reading fro you, and because you took sometime to
explain how much good Kent will be to you and your family, my husband
is very positive and it is with this that i let you know that we have
decided above all ought to let you have Kent.
you have a very lovely family setting and we are pleased you will
welcome a visit from us if ever we are passing by. my health is not the
best too so i won’t write much.
your distance is far, i traveled with Kent all the way from Greece so
he’ll make the distances,it is going to cost you $ 2600 to have Kent
delivered to you in Toronto, and his journey will take 2 days or so, my
husband will look for a reliable animal delivery agency that will take
good care of Kent and bring him to you in one piece.
i will be needing your full names, home address and phone number so
that my husband can work out a transfer of ownership document to make
Kent legitimately yours and also to ease delivery to your home. get
back to me with this information and am sure by tomorrow mid day its
going to be done. how soon will you want Kent?
get back to me at your earliest convenience
kindest regard
I’ve always had a soft spot for the name Xander, can i have a picture
of your family that is if you don’t mind. thank you
HER 2 Reply
RE: Friesian Horse For Adoption?
From: jenniferkalex@aol.com
Sent: October 10, 2009 5:31:03 PM
To: dowshannon22@hotmail.com
Hi Dow,
Nice reading from you once more and i really do appreciate your so
much interest in getting kent .I will rather prefer you send the money
to my husband so that he gets delivery arranged and ready for kent’s
delivery over to you as he is very used to arrangements of this sort, I
shall also be needing your full names,Home Address ,Phone number ,Barn
Address if any or Farm Address .With regards to sending the money over
to my husband i will prefer you send the money to him via Money Gram as
it is just a few blocks away from me so that we can get delivery ready
and sorted out in a short time .This is my husband address you shall be
sending the money to via Money Gram as i said .
Names……………………Yves Dupras
State…………………….. Florida
City………………………. Miami Beach
Zip code ……………….. 33139
One you do that do get back to me with the reference number so that my
husband can get the money and make all arrangements for kents delivery .
Kindest Regards
—–Original Message—–
From: Shannon Dow
To: friesian
Sent: Sat, Oct 10, 2009 12:21 pm
Subject: RE: Friesian Horse For Adoption
Hi Jennifer, what info did you need from me eactly….. I can send it
off to you and get the ball rolling!!!! Do I pay you for the annimal
delivery service or do I deal directly with them.. Just let me know so
I can get that to you so your husband can do what he needs to do…
Thanks and I hope to hear from you soon. Oh yes, we would love to have
kent come as soon aas possible..
Shannon Dow
> To: dowshannon22@hotmail.com
> Subject: Friesian Horse For Adoption
> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 01:23:23 -0400
> From: jenniferkalex@aol.com
>
> hello,
> thank you for your inquiry, i was actually re-thinking about
giving
> him out for adoption. well yes he is still available. i call him
Kent
> very calm and easy going.i had a car accident and my doctor said
that
> the accident affected my legs, so I can not ride a horse again. I
am on
> a wheelchair, and I can never walk again, I really love my horse,
so I
> want to find a new home for him, currently 15hh height and wei15hh height and weighs
350
> pounds, he is 6 years of age, he could be used in school, show and
as a
> riding horse, had a recent inspection and veterinary vaccines, and
> bending tests. He is very healthy, sound and jumps 2’6”on half,
but
> could be up to 3’5, the horse is very friendly and easy to
maintain, my
> husband is German and works in the UN and he does not like horses,
so i
> want a new home for the horse, in which the horse will be loved,
adored
> and treated with as much care. Kent will be coming along with all
his
> health, vaccination and registration papers, where do you live ?
we are
> located in FL. hoping to read from you soon.
> kindest regards,
>
this is the final one from this account
RE: REFriesian Horse For Adoption?
From: jenniferkalex@aol.com
Sent: October 14, 2009 4:14:02 PM
To: dowshannon22@hotmail.com
hello Shannon
5pm is ok by me, when you are done let me know so that as soon as my
husband returns from work he can get it and then send you all the
details, you know he’s doing all the work alone.
kindest regards
—–Original Message—–
From: Shannon Dow
To: friesian
Sent: Wed, Oct 14, 2009 7:53 pm
Subject: RE: REFriesian Horse For Adoption
Hi jenni, all should be finalized by 5pm, so let me know when you get
this. Also if you could send Kents registration number that would be
appreciated!
Shannon
> To: dowshannon22@hotmail.com
> Subject: REFriesian Horse For Adoption
> Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:27:46 -0400
> From: jenniferkalex@aol.com
>
> hello Shannon
> i have not received any email money transfer and more so i
gave you
> my husbands details so you do a money gram which is close to the
house
> and easy to cash and get Kent to you, please do a money gram
transfer i
> will really prefer that if you don’t mind, and when you talk of
> traceable in another sense you don’t really trust me or what? why
would
> i risk my husbands job or reputation because of $2600, i need for
you
> to trust me like i trust you to let you have Kent.
> Do well to get back to me when you are done with the money
gram, and
> my husband will have finalize arrangements here and get back to
you
> asap,
> Kindest regards
> Jenni
>
>
> —–Original Message—–
> From: Shannon Dow <dowshannon22@hotmail.com>
> To: friesian <jenniferkalex@aol.com>
> Sent: Wed, Oct 14, 2009 8:03 am
> Subject: RE: Friesian Horse For Adoption
>
> Hi Jenni, I assume you got the picture of our family!!!!
> Also I have sent you a email money transfer to you account, that
way
> you can do what you want with the funds. This way you can move it
to
> your bank account or whatever and its traceable so it wont get
lost.
> Write me back so I know it has arrived to your email address, if
not I
> will find another means to send it to you via paypal. Sometimes
email
> money transfer doesn’t work. Could you send me the registration
> document snow that your husband has them all done. Write me back
soon I
> am hoping we can get kent here by the end of the weekend.
>
> Shannon
>
>
>
> > To: dowshannon22@hotmail.com
> > Subject: Friesian Horse For Adoption
> > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:22:15 -0400
> > From: jenniferkalex@aol.com
> >
> > hello Shannon,
> > hope you had a great day, my husband is done with the
> necessary
> > documents for Kent’s save delivery to you, and he was
wondering
> when
> > you will get the money sent so he contacts he’s friend that
will
> > personally supervise Kent’s delivery to your home.
> > We are eager to see pictures of you and Kent when he
arrives at
> your
> > home, remember that we are letting you have Kent because we
know
> you
> > will offer him the home we failed to give him.
> > i will be waiting to read from you then.
> > Kindest regards
> > jenni
> >
> >
> >
> > —–Original Message—–
> > From: Shannon Dow <dowshannon22@hotmail.com>
> > To: friesian <jenniferkalex@aol.com>
> > Sent: Mon, Oct 12, 2009 6:37 pm
> > Subject: RE: Friesian Horse For Adoption
> >
> > Hi Jenni, I was just reading your reply and seen the info I
sent
> you.
> > That was not the format that message was sent, I hope you
> understood
> > everything ok. I was also wondering where Kent will be
traveling
> from
> > exactly….
> > Thanks for the Thanksgiving wishes, we had a great time. I
went to
> a
> > fair to watch the horses pulls and events, they had a friesian
> > competing this year. I got a chance to ride him and it seems
that
> breed
> > handle very well with minimal training. This was a young
horse
> with
> > little training and I found him to be very calm,a pleasure to
> > ride. That makes me want Kent here even more!!!! I am not
sure if
> I
> > asked before but how does Kent do with other horses.
> > ..Is he
> > registered…
> >
> > Shannon
> >
> >
> >
> > > To: dowshannon22@hotmail.com
> > > Subject: RE: Friesian Horse For Adoption
> > > Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 21:12:36 -0400
> > > From: jenniferkalex@aol.com
> > >
> > > hey Shannon,
> > > lovely reading from you, i hope you enjoyed your
> thanksgiving
> > with
> > > your family, glad you sent your details too. my husband
will
> work
> > out
> > > every single detail and get back to you soonest. have a
> splendid
> > > evening.
> > > Jennie
> > >
> > > —–Original Message—–
> > > From: Shannon Dow <dowshannon22@hotmail.com>
> > > To: friesian <jenniferkalex@aol.com>
> > > Sent: Mon, Oct 12, 2009 5:33 pm
> > > Subject: RE: Friesian Horse For Adoption
she honestly thought I was sending the money LOL! I wanted to see if she received the family picture I never sent her HA!
The other accounts I used she gave a quote for $3100 and $1600
The same lady emailed me only this time she was a 14.1hh 5 year old mare called Haisi. She threw the horse at me and expected me to provide all my personal details within 3 days.
My mum thought it sounded too good to be true so I then decided to research it. That was when the same email address I had googled came up on three different websites with the same horse and the same rider under different names. I’m from the UK but other websites with the same horse on were also from as far as the US.
If anyone contacts you under this email address about a Fresian horse for adoption then please remember this post. melanidiote@gmail.com
I am having the same type of interaction as Shannon has had I will post on my blog http://qthorse.blogspot.com/
I have had this same scam attempt on me. I will be posting my interactions with her on my blog . I hope that by posting this at more places it will reach a greater # people and no one will be fooled in to paying for shipping on a horse that does not exist.
WHY ARE YOU ALL GREEDY, YOU BUY A HORSE WHICH IS SOLD FOR $25000-$30000 FOR $900-2000, WHEN YOU GET SCAMMED YOU , CRY, GET LOST YOU GREEDY FOX.
“REAL WORLD” – GET THE MEANING OF WORD “GREEDY”!
WHEN SOMEONE BUYS, THAT MEANS HE/SHE SPENDS THE MONEY – IT’S NOT GREEDY!
WHEN SCUMBAGS LIKE YOU DEFRAUD REAL, WORKING PEOPLE – THAT IS GREEDY AND CRIME – YOU PATHOLOGICAL WAY OF THINKING(?) TRY TO “EXCUSE” A CRIME!
INTERNATIONAL CRIME DONE BY LAZY, UNEDUCATED, STREET GANGSTERS, WHO HAVE NO CONSCIOUS NOR HUMAN EMOTIONS – JUST PURE GREED AND LOTS OF JEALOUSY FOR OTHERS’ LIFESTYLES.
SUCH SCUMBAGS ARE NOT “REAL PEOPLE” – NOR THEY ARE ANIMALS… POOR EXCUSE FOR A “HUMAN BEING” – OWNER OF THIS BLOG SHOULD POST IP OF THIS SCUMBAG – CAMEROON OR NIGERIA OR KENYA – I’M SURE!
I had the same experience as many are discussing. The horse’s name was Lenny. He is still listed at http://www.equinehits.com id # 276534. I realized that it was a scam early but continued emails to see how far they are willing to go. Mathew Sims Mathewsims33@yahoo.com (owner)posted the ad it Arizona and now lives in Louisiana. He gave me a fake vet name, fake transport service,etc. I talked with the owner and the transport company. I could bearly understand them and both numbers were unavailable. The key to understanding if you have a scam – if it is too good to be true, it is!! It seems that most of the emails have broken english as a common thread. There are no limits to what humans will do to get money without working!
***MAJOR SCAM ORGANIZATION!***
Anytime on a pet selling website you see an ad for a purebred animal worth many more times than it is being sold for, do NOT reply to it. These scammers are a small group of people from Cameroon or Nigeria and have ads on all of the major pet selling/adoption websites. Never send personal information or full names because you could also become an alias they use to scam someone else. They have been found to have collected over $350k from unsuspecting buyers. NEVER wire money, buy any pet unless you or a reliable source can see the animal in person, and USE WISE JUDGEMENT. why would an animal normally worth $15,000 now be worth $1500 or less. If you’re in Tennessee and look for horses in that state and the horse happens to be located somewhere else and some strange “catastrophy” happened wherethey much give away their animal, just don’teven give them a reply. Delete the email and avoid suspicious ads.
Thanks,
K.
http://www.horsetopia.com/for-sale/classifieds/ad493599 a pair of freisian geldings.. turned out to be in british cameroon.. hmm saw the pics.. nice horses.. apparently 15.2 each.. the one is HUGE compared to the other!
The real world guy is using broken English…
The scammers love to reply to their own ads just to try
to denounce the fact that the ads are obvious scams. Some of these men have been caught before using fake ids to go to western unions to get their money. They are school drop outs and speak very broken English with poor spelling and punctuation.
I just almost fell for this scam, a lady called Cate who is extremely ill, just lost her husband and is also pregnant, giving away a 9yo friesian. I found the ad on a dutch site with the aid of babelfish, but miraculously she is in UK with the horse. She wanted me to wire 480 euros to cameroon for delivery of the horse. The “shipping company” also phoned me and I told them I would either pay cash on delivery of the horse or find my own shippers, but Cate would not give me the address of where to collect the horse!
I played along with this to see how far it would go, I told her my little boy wanted to re name the horse Goliath after the horse in ladyhawke, and he is sooo excited, (which is untrue as I did not wish to disappoint hint him) but I also told her of my very true health problems, in the last 3 years I have had varicelle pneumonia which nearly killed me, breast cancer and now sarcoidosis, she was still willing to rip me off!
Unfortunately there are some genuine people out there looking for good homes for horses, I was given for free and beautiful 10 yo fully papered PRE stallion, high school trained who I totally adore. He has a very slight back problem which I was aware of, and I was asked to pay for shipping up front, but I checked out the shipping company and found them to be one of the top companies operating in Europe, I phoned their office from the web address and everything was in order, so beware, but sometimes fairy tales do come true!
This is a scam I came across…
This was the original email that I sent out…
Hi,
I am interested in your horse. Could you please let me know where you are located?
Do you have more pictures?
Thanks,
The responce…
hello Valerie,what i need is a home for him.i had him listed for theprice of 6000$ but no one could afford the price and i really need anurgent home for him since i have to go back to UK and meet my family.ihave not seen my family for 12 years now and i really have to go andmeet them so i am not selling him because it is going to take moretime again.what i need for him now is 2000$ including the deliveryfee to your location so if you can afford that them we will get everypaper work ready so that the courier agency can bring him over toyou okay .my address is 2377 Collins ave,Miami beach, Floridawaiting to read you write.
I replied
My question to you is where are you located? I would like to come see him and I need to know the state the horse is located in.
This is his reply
NEW YORK,USA AND YOU?
My reply…
Can you please give me an address so that I can book an airplane to come and see him? Do you have a phone # that I can have?
His reply…
hello Valerie,
> what i need is a home for him.i had him listed for the
> price of 6000$ but no one could afford the price and i really need an
> urgent home for him since i have to go back to UK and meet my family.i
> have not seen my family for 12 years now and i really have to go and
> meet them so i am not selling him because it is going to take more
> time again.what i need for him now is 2000$ including the delivery
> fee to your location so if you can afford that them we will get every
> paper work ready so that the courier agency can bring him over to
> you okay .my address is 2377 Collins ave,Miami beach, Florida
> waiting to read you write.
My reply…
You previously told me that you lived in New York and now Florida..MAKE UP YOUR MIND YOU STUPID SCAMMER…. I HOPE PEOPLE LIKE YOU GO TO HELL
His reply…
what are you talking about ?i am based in Miami .i always go to NY tosort out stuff from my old apartment
For all of you Friesian lover….Please don’t be fooled. Friesians are rarely for sale under $8,000 and make sure you can visit the horse before purchase.
Email address was or is…
twoproudparents101@gmail.com
I have found 5 Friesians for “adoption” to good home. They all are well cared for and excellent dressage prospects. All have different names. But every one is the same horse with the same rider. I live in Texas and they are listed here. But upon contact with “owner” they have been in California, West Virginia, North Dakota and Cameroon. Am waiting to hear back about others. SCAM SCAM SCAM!!!! And a friend of mine found one and received the exact same email as me, but 6 months later. So yeah, don’t fall for it.
Another Cameroon Scam with Friesian / Morgan Horse comes from sonitawilliams@gmail.com
Advertising a $2000 horse – eventually sends information, photos etc and requests Money Gram to Cameroon
Was posted on the Australian Web Site myaushorse.com.au
I feel sorry for the honest site owners and the honest sellers and buyers that get hit by these SCAMS !
DO NOT SEND THIS PERSON ANY MONEY
We have had the same type of scams in the Knoxville, Tn area. When checked upon, the address given with zipcode, found the site in the city itself!! People need to be aware that if sounds too good to be true, more likely it.s a scam. It,s too bad there’s so many people out there willing to prey upon innocent people, but then this is worldwide exposure and what’s can be good for millions, can be disasterous to thousands!! LET THE BUYER BEWARE …
ceciliasuns@yahoo.com <<< scammer. Was posted on numerous sites. When I was looking he was selling Friesians for $700 and I just was wondering why they were so cheap so I sent an e-mail. He wanted to know my information right away and I didn't give it to him period. I said for 1. I have to find a board and 2. I need more info. Tried to say he would give me two Friesians for absolutely nothing and that $700 was for shipping to Atlanta because he lives in Texas (although it was posted as Atlanta). I e-mailed him back and said well, I'm sure the hauling company won't mind me to pay them when the horses get here and that I refuse to pay without the horses physically infront of me. I get a reply that says
"Sorry.Talk to you later.someone just emailed me wanting both of them tomorrow and she is willing to pay $100 extra for my patience.I really wanted you to get them but you are taking so long and i have to get back to work.Sorry"
And I just let him know I was aware of his scam and let it be at that. Please don't get hooked by this because I'm new to the horse thing so even though it seemed too good to be true, I really wanted to believe it was true because I want an awesome horse for cheap. Just be careful and that e-mail is the e-mail of contact. THIS PERSON IS A SCAMMER.
It annoys me so much that some genuine horses out there (like my beautiful PRE) will get bypassed as a scam because of these people. I am so lucky to have him, but he came from a reputable place. My only advice is to say that you will find your own transport and pay haulage to them. If they wont give you the address of where the horse is held then you can think that it is a scam, but there again, so many horses are being stolen, would genuine people wish to give address out of where an expensive horse is being held????
It is the way of the world it seems, to be untrusting of people, and to get scammed if you do trust people, it is so bloody sad!
Thank you so much for posing this nformation. If i hadnt seen it i would tomorrow be paying for delivery of the beautiful “Dezel”. Thats one xmas suprise i really didnt need. Thanks again!
Go all the latest details on where, how ect and passport of horse.
Want to cath these f****kers anybody that are willing to protect the athore people out there as well as the great name of the Friesian build up throug the years they ar breaking down.
If anybody need more info please mail me at aggressiveaudio@webmail.com
I have seen so many different names for this horse…. The scammer also uses several names and email. She isn’t to bright as she keeps sending the same pictures with each horse she tries to sell. She does need to be stopped… this is her newest one
RE: Black Huge Friesian Gelding?
From: Larisa Holmes (larisaholmes@yahoo.com)
Sent: November 24, 2009 6:00:54 AM
To: Shannon Dow (dowshannon22@hotmail.com)
Hi,
That will be nice of you if you will prefer to come get Landy yourself.But please you have to be fast since I will be leaving by Thursday for my medical check up and I will be back only after the Christmas break.
Also you have to pay for the adoption fee to the orphans home center in the UK so that they can help the needy.I have already contacted them and promised to help them.So I will get to you with their payment data so that you can make the payment directly to them.ok
Hope to read from you soon.
— On Mon, 11/23/09, Shannon Dow wrote:
From: Shannon Dow
Subject: RE: Black Huge Friesian Gelding
To: larisaholmes@yahoo.com
Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 5:28 PM
Hi, I would prefer to come get him myself if thats ok?
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:48:14 -0800
From: larisaholmes@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: Black Huge Friesian Gelding
To: dowshannon22@hotmail.com
Hi,
thanks very much for the mail.As you can see,all i need is just for a loving and caring person to give Landy the love he deserves.I will be out of town for a medical check up and will not be around for a while.But I have entrusted you as the right person for Landy and hope you promise to take very good care of him.
I have already contacted a reliable delivery service and they have promised to ship Landy to your home.They will also be coming with all of Landy valid papers along.So you just have to get to me with your full delivery details so that I can take Landy to the delivery agency and confirm his shipping to your home,ok:
Your full names………..
Home address…………
Phone number…………..
Postal codes……………
As soon as you get to me with this details I will take Landy to the delivery agency,ok.
Hope to read from you soon.
Kind regards,
Holmes.
— On Sat, 11/21/09, Shannon Dow wrote:
From: Shannon Dow
Subject: RE: Black Huge Friesian Gelding
To: larisaholmes@yahoo.com
Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 9:40 PM
I would like to come pic him up myself if that is ok? I can come at the first of the week if ou get back to me sometime today…. thanks again
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:29:55 -0800
From: larisaholmes@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: Black Huge Friesian Gelding
To: dowshannon22@hotmail.com
Hi,
I am more than happy reading again from you.Hope all is well with you and yours.
All I need is just a loving and caring person to give Landy the love he deserve.
He jumps very well and even takes to voice command.
I am letting him go because I got involved in an accident and I am not health wise OK.So I will not be able to give Landy the love he deserves.
I am presently with my family at Augusta in Maine State and I am here with Landy.
You just have to promise me that you will take very good care of him and keep me up dated with his up keep..He is very adorable and you will really love him.
Please when exactly will you be expecting him so that I can start making arrangement for his shipping to your home?
I have contacted a reliable shipping agency and they have promised to do the delivery safely to your home.
I am giving him out just for $1300 in which you will have to pay the money directly to an orphanage center I have been in contact with and have promised to help them.
Thanks very much for the mail and hope to read from you soon.
Regards,
Holmes.
— On Sat, 11/21/09, Shannon Dow wrote:
From: Shannon Dow
Subject: RE: Black Huge Friesian Gelding
To: larisaholmes@yahoo.com
Date: Saturday, November 21, 2009, 12:13 AM
hi, the pictures don’t look like the same horse??? How much are you asking for him?
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:58:37 -0800
From: larisaholmes@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Black Huge Friesian Gelding
To: dowshannon22@hotmail.com
Hi ,
I am very happy reading from you in regards of my Friesian gelding for adoption.He is called Landy ..He is 10 years 6 months and regular in his vet visit. He is in very good health,and well trained for English and western pleasure.He is also trained for family use and ridding pleasure,
He is presently 16.2hh and black in color.He is good at trail ridding
and love to be in a pasture with other horses.He is very playful and
welcoming especially to kids and other pets like dogs very well and can get along very well with other horses in a pasture. He has completed his 90 days training so his now a dressage horse and
at such can stand with two back legs. He can take voice command and loves kids as well as visitors. He is well known for dressage, and showing – A Champion Show Horse.He is with beautiful,elegant,
movements .This gelding will take your breath away.He trot high,
perfectly in time. A good matching driving horse to find,he have very,
very good characters, no nervousness.He is bombproof in traffic,
having experience passing trains, building yards etc..He manage
exceptionally well in any forms of traffic. This is of course very
important when driving,they have the most exceptional manners.He will be sure to impress you. He is Very polite, very loving Friesian..
He come to call. Box and shoe excellently. With thick black manes, and tails, and his big brown eyes,he look absolutely stunning.He have amazing little characters, with their loving ways,he is gorgeous!!I
Please have you ever raised such a breed before?
Are you a breeder?
Do you have kids?
Will you be able to take care of Him and his supplies?
Where are you located precisely?
I have just attached some of the horse photos.Hope you will love them.
Thanks for the mail and waiting to read from you as soon as possible.
Regards,
Holmes.
HERE IS A NOTORIOUS PUPPY / BIRDS / HORSES SCAMER FROM CAMERON:
from: lincoln brice
subject: The Horse Exchange – Horse Sales Advert No: 85845
Hi there , thanks for the mail regarding our baby Dan . He is still
available and we are still seeking for a new home for him . we will
like to know the experience you have had with horses ??? if you have
had any before ??? how soon you need him ?? where you are located ,
we
are presently located in Uk , precisely in London
, here is our
telepphone number ,you can call us at anytime you which for more
details on how our baby can get to you and what we need from you
,+447031870448 ,as soon as you get back to us will show you pictures
of our baby
will be waiting to hear from you as soon as you see this mail
best regards
IF YOU GOOGLE HIS NUMBER, YOU WILL FIND OUT MORE
HIS LATEST E-MAIL IS: lincoln brice lincolnbrice@gmail.com
HE ALSO USES: dallenlopez@yahoo.com juliaandreas45@gmail.com
HA! I got the EXACT same email except it was from a mr james karryman! on a horse named tango. these ppl need to be stopped! luckily i googled it before i payed anything and found out it was a scam, i also was almost scammed by a “woman” named lisa on one named HASI, a mare in GA>
Also has a ad at freehorseads.com ad#157790.On both sights the horse has different names.The scammer that wrote me back was JulianMirre.Please use precautions.These criminals are worthless human beings.Iam a vet tech and have worked on friesians for at least 10 years.I have never seen one sell for that cheap.What a wonderful creature they are.I would love to own one.
Well they are still at it. I to was almost lured in until I was asked for personal information and the horse moved locations overnight!
This person claimed to be Daniela Medina and wanted to sell the horse for $3200.00. Then when I stopped communicating they offered to lower the price as well. Then they got mixed up with which emails they had already replied to and replied again to an earlier email with the old location information.
Pretty sorry scammer when they can’t keep their story straight even through email!
Here is the email address of this person:
medina0501@hotmail.com
Here is the content from their emails:
Email 2:
Hi ,
it was nice reading from you again.I am so impressed with the mail you just wrote to me .This really made me to understand that you are a horse lover.I have loved horse all my life and I had my first horse when I was 12 which was a Tennessee walker and was bought for me by my grand father as a birthday gift.He was suffering from an influenza which affected his lung.He had nasal discharge and lost of appetite .I tried all I could but he passed away. So Jeanna is a nice horse and the reason why I am selling him is that I got posted here in Triangle,Virginia for a new job that I acquired which is very demanding and I won’t have time to care for Jeanna anymore.He is a nice horse and I don’t want to stress him nor make him feel unloved.he is always alone and feeling very bored so I want him to go to a good,caring and loving home where he is going to be given much attention.Like I said that I am now in Virginia and Jeanna is here with me so I was suggesting that you could come down here and see him then take him along .If you feel that coming here could be stressful to you and prefer that I arrange for a safe transportation and delivery of Jeanna to your home,then it is up to you deciding and letting me know. If you decide to come down here,then you should let me know when you shall be coming .If you decide that I have him transported and delivered to your home ,since you will be paying for the transportation of Jeanna also,I can help in reducing the price of the horse.I really want the best for him so I don’t want anyone who will be taking Jeanna to stress so I am going to send him with the tack,saddle and the blanket,so you won’t be buying any of these things.For Jeanna to be transported to your home,I will need to have your full names,full home address,phone number,state,city and zip code which will be used by the hauler to deliver Jeanna right to your home so you won’t be going to pick him up from somewhere.I will be waiting to hear from you soon,
Daniela Medina
— Email 1
Hi,thank you for the interest in my horse Jeanna.I just want to tell you that he is still available right now.Yes this horse is currently in US.He trailers well and is good for farrier,vet,etc.He has 2-3 times riding per week but he is ready to go even 5 time per week . He is regular on his vet and his shots are up to date .He has all his paper work done.This horse has been trained for trail riding, show,dressage and is undergoing his 2nd dressage level .He has also been ridden western and English. He has a gentle personality and will do well with kids and other house pets.He is good for beginner and intermediate riders. He is very friendly and playful to them.He is DNA tested , can take voice command and he does not easily become spoke and is broke to ride,even a seven year old child can handle him. He is a good listener to his rider and love to be taken out for a ride.He is very sound and ok in health , no vices and he has never been ill nor injured .He has never been affected by any disease due to the fact that his vaiccines are given regularly. If your looking for a dressage ,show or trail gelding , it doesn’t get any better than this.Jeanna is very much dressage type,an eager student and very willing to work hard for his rider and also willing to learn . I don’t say these things lightly as they are not easy things to do but Jeanna is really that special. He has lots of professional training including clinics with late Bren Daker.No regret to anyone who is going to have Jeanna . In fact,he is going to make a perfect family member . I just want to ask if you have ever owned a horse and for how long? I will a also like to know where you live so that I can invite you to my place for viewing and pickup of Jeanna . I will also like to know how soon you will want to bye this my horse? I will be waiting to hear fom you soon
Friesian Adoption Scam from Cameroon
Without getting into detail, my daughter identified the following e-mail addresses as being associated with the caption noted fraudulent activity masked as a Friesian Adoption. nicole.rota78@yahoo.com and cliffordherman@live.com. The name being used for the Friesian at this time is, “Danny”. The shipping company name from Cameroon is called, International Pet Flight (IPFlight) using the following e-mail address: intpet.flight@usa.com. Payment via Western Union wire tranfer was required to the following address before shipment would occur.
NAME:……………. .ACHANKENG ACHA SALOMON
ADDRESS:…………. .12 MAIN ROAD
CITY:……………….TIKO
COUNTRY…………….CAMEROON
ZIP………………..00237
The above has been supplied to prevent legitimately concerned equestrians from being victims of fraudulent activity.
Tom
RM of Springfield, Manitoba, Canada
Wow okay this is CRAZY
I am all the way in South Africa but got three of the same responses from different people. One from South Africa, one from Botswana and one from USA.
This is what the responses said:
First one: Cham Carlos (USA)
Hello,
Thanks for your interest on my huge,black ,talk,long eared,deep round goldeneyed
friesian gelding boy available for adoption .This baby is already name
Mandela .he is
8 years 6 months and regular in his vet visit. This baby is not
registered,but he is well trained for English and western pleasure.
He is also trained for family use and ridding pleasure,
He is presently 16hh and black in color
He is good at trail ridding and love to be in a pasture with other
horses.He is very playful
and welcoming especially to kids and other pets like dogs very well
and can get along very well with other horses in a pasture.
he has completed his 90 days training so his now a dressage horse and
at such can stand with two back legs.
he can take voice command and loves kids as well as visitors
before letting this baby out i would love to know if you have ever
raise such a breed before and the purpose for adopting him because i
do not want to give him out to a trader rather as a pet to a horse
loving ,riders,beginners and intermediaries…
families.
I would also like to know your location so as to know
how we can invite you over for viewing and trial ridding.i also
will like to know
when you are ready for the baby as i would really love him to go to
a nice home. feel free to mail me at at anytime .i would email you
more pictures,information and vet papers as soon as i hear from you
Waiting………….
hello,
i now believe you can take good care of this horse and my wife
and i have decided to hand over this horse to you on one condition.
If you are going to be able to take good care of his shipping to your location?
If yes then we will like to know when you will want to have him so
thaty we can contact the shippers and get him registered for shipping.
Merry Merry
Ok that will be nice i will be waiting to read from you when you must
have spoken to your parents.
i am from Nissaw Minnesota USA
Hello,
The horse can be shipped from USA to SA and the shipping fee
will be $800 equivalent to R 6,053.42
I have also attach some lovely photos of the horse ,my daughter , my
wife our trainer and our vet.
Below are also some copies of his vet papers for you to view and
confirm his current health status.
Second one: Bob Bradley (Botswana)
He is a very tall , nice moving friesian gelding. He has an
attitude that will take him all the way in the show ring.
It is difficult to find a poor picture of him, as he is so photogenic.
Although showy with attitude, he is very easy to handle and just eats
up any attention he can get. he is currently the most lovely home
raise and riding pleasure horse i have ever seen for now,he has is
black huge healthy can take voice command and can stand on his two
back legs. this gelding is registered and he weighs about 1000
to 1200lbs
he is black in color and also very good with other horses in pasture
and will as well come with all tacks,hand book and video.I will be giving him out because i do not have a good and suitable range her for him.The love shown on him is so minimal that i believe it is so poor for an animal.
he is ready for free adoption to a forever loving and caring home and i am ready to feed you with more
info and photos
Discipline Halter Reining
Dressage Driving Working Cow Horse
Trained Prospect Trained Green Prospect
Breed Friesian
Gender Gelding
Age 7 y.o.
Height 15.3 hands
Color Black
I will love to get that assurance from you that he will be in loving and caring
hands.
Equally just to inquire
Have owned a horse before?
Do you have a ranch?
Do you have kids?
Are you married?
Have you got a good range for him?
please get back with answers to this questions thanks.
This shows that you are the real person for him.You will really enjoy having him
in your companion. he is a good and lovely companion. I am giving him out
on a free adoption
because of my present health condition. I have been diagnosed of severe
Blood Cancer
I don’t have the time and don’t see the possibility of taking care of him. I will be traveling very soon out of the country for more health attention. I am located in Francis Town Botswana so if you can come for view
and pick up fine but if not then you don’t need to worry
yourself. he will be delivered to you without any problem or
stress. i will make all necessary arrangements such as
preparation of the change of ownership paper, registration
for him for delivery and other little arrangements and as soon
as all is set then you will have him delivered to you, well
also do promise me that you will be sending to me monthly
updated pictures to know how he is doing and i will be very
happy about it.well he will be coming with all registration
paper works. if that is okay you then i will
like you to get back to me with your full contact address
so that i start right away with the delivery arrangements
such as..
Your Full Names
Your City
Your Home Address
Your Post Code
Your Phone Number
well everything will cost you just R 3500.For Transparency you are only going to pay R 1500 for transportation and upon delivery,you make the completion
, if that is okay by
you then get back to me asap so that i can start with the
arrangements.
Third one: Daniel Frysler (South Africa) But he also said on other ads that is from USA, Cameroon and a lot of other places:
Hello and thank you for the interest in my Horses . Actually i have two horses , a Freisian Gelding and a Freisian Mare horses and i will like start by giving you some background information about them …
Height………………….16.1+ Hands,
Gelding………………..Jason ( black )
Mare……………………Jesse ( brown )
Weight…………………1250 pds
Health Status………..Vet Checked
Age………………………9 years
Discipline……………..Dressage
Temperament……….Quiet ,willing ,hard working and sensitive
Jason and Jesse have a special look that can´t be described: sweet and very
affectionate. They all have a good conformation of the body and will
become a bit taller . Have a long head with short ears on a crested neck with a luxurious mane. The body is strong and well muscled, the tail thick and the legs feathered.
Character
Affectionate in all the ways, easy going non-complicated character,
intelligent and cool minded are the words which describe them best
Mo vement
Very good forward going movement with nice knee action; works through
the whole body. Has trots which are easy to sit in and a smooth canter
Extra’s
Lovely horses which will make a perfect family horse with potential for
dressage and showing characteristics
Potential
They are trained riding and driving horses, used to traffic, dogs
, children and other household pet , dressage competition, pleasure riding,
and driving. can do well in dressage competition due to their movement,
trainability, appearance, power, and body control. also remains popular as
a carriage horse, as they are powerful horses .
I just suffered from a car accident that affected my spine and i
was advised by my doctor not to ride anymore .so i am looking for that
loving and caring family that will adopt him and spoil him with much
love and care .
Please i will like to ask you some few question’s to gain your
experience in Horse Care
Are you married ?
How many kids do you have ?
Do you have a stable ?
What do you think about horses ?
Have you ever owned a horse before ?
What is your exact location ?
Please get back to me with answers to the above questions
so i could forward you some of his pictures.
Thanks
Daniel Frysler
Hello and thank you very much for getting back to me in regards to the adoption of my horses . i am also very very happy and pleased with your responses and i now believe my horses will have a wonderful with you and the rest of the family .
The accident which caused the major damage on my spine has caused me to have to hit the wheelchair for the next 3 years . this has made me to relocate to my parents in Pretoria – South Africa because i had nobody back there who could take good care of me and the horses . i have to give them out because i do not want them to grow naughty since they have had some good training. it is also very bad for your horses to have to spend all their days at the stable . so that is why i am looking for that lovely family and home that will give them the love and care they deserve .
I do not believe in selling animals that is why i am not asking for an adoption fee after them . they can be used for eventing, shows, and trail . they have also had a complete 90 days dressage training and are good for endurance riding and loves kids . You can also use them in whatsoever field you want to use them since they are well trained and have almost passed through all the various stages in horse training.
So the only way you will receive any or both of them is by me setting up a delivery for you and they will be delivered to you at your home . all what you will be required to pay will be the transportation and delivery charges . so please i will like to know if you want both of them or just one to be delivered to you so that i can contact some delivery agencies and get a reasonable price quote for the transportation and delivery of the horses to your home .
Thanks and i wait to read from you at your convenience .
Daniel Frysler
Hello and thanks for the mail . the horses are presently with me in Pretoria . i had to relocate with them because i had nobody who could take proper care of them . i also did make some inquiries about the transportation and delivery cost of Jason and i got a reasonable price quote of R 4785 . this money will be paid directly to the delivery agency that will be responsible for the transportation and delivery and everything has already been put in place . so please let me know if you will be willing to pay for his transportation and delivery and also let me know when exactly you want him to be delivered to you . thanks and waiting for your prompt response .
Hello and thanks for the mail . i don’t know so much about the payment terms but i believe a certain percentage will be paid before so that his flight ticket can be purchase and the rest will be paid when you receive him at your home . so please let me know exactly when you want him to be delivered to you so that i can arrange all his documents and his equipments and get him ready . thanks and waiting …… Also extend my warmth Christmas greetings to your parents .
I then told him that I can’t just pay that amount and also mentioned to him that I can pick him up in January and this was his reply:
Hello and thanks for the mail . i am also very sorry for the late reply . i was at the hospital for some check up on my spine . i was very happy when you made mentioned of the fact that Jason will be picked up from Pretoria but it is rather unfortunate that my doctor made me to understand that i need a major operation on my spine as soon as possible and i will therefore be traveling to the states for that operation before the 25th . so it is very clear that i have to let him out before that day . please i know it will kind of disturb you a little but i want to assure you that everything will be ok .
I also understand you cannot afford all the transportation and delivery fee but i want to let you know that i am very willing and able to help you complete the balance . so please let me know how much you can afford so that i can complete it and we pay for Jason to travel . please kindly get back to me as soon as possible so that we can get things arranged for Jason to travel . i also want to thank you for your understanding .
…………………………..
I also received an e-mail from his “wife” that read:
Hello and thank you for the interest in my horse and i will like start
by giving you some background information about him …
Height………………….16.1+ Hands,
Color…………………….Brown
Weight…………………1150 pds
Health Status…………Vet Checked
Sex……………………..Gelding
Age………………………9 years
Kaki is a handsome boy; just take a look at his head and you will
be sold! He has a special look that can´t be described: sweet and very
affectionate. He has a good conformation of the body and will
become a bit taller than he is now.
Character
Affectionate in all the ways, easy going non-complicated character,
intelligent and cool minded are the words which describe him best
Movement
Very good forward going movement with nice knee action; works through
the whole body. He has a trot which is easy to sit in and a smooth canter
Extra’s
Lovely horse which will make a perfect family horse with potential for
dressage and showing
Potential
He is a trained riding and driving horse, used to traffic, dogs
, children and other household pet .
I just suffered from a car accident that affected my spine and i
was advised by my doctor not to ride anymore .so i am looking for that
loving and caring family that will adopt him and spoil him with much
love and care .
Please i will like to ask you some few question’s to gain your
experience in Horse Care
Are you married ?
How many kids do you have ?
Do you have a stable ?
What do you think about horses ?
Have you ever owned a horse before ?
What is your exact location ?
Please get back to me with answers to the above questions
so i could forward you some of his pictures.
Thanks, Anita
Hope this information helps!!
Their e-mail addresses:
Daniel: dfrysler@yahoo.co.uk
Anita: anitabuls@yahoo.com
Hope this is helpful!!
Alyce
Watch out guys, their latest scam is free squirrel monkeys…Saw the add on gumtree. But the picture is one that was taken in a zoo and was used for cute pictures in e-mails to friend. Their language is also broken and they use very bad english…
Alyce
Oh PS:
They also have the same add for the squirrel monkeys in various categories, (including the dog- and cat categories :-/ uhmmmm)
But they posted it under various e-mails cause when you choose to view the poster’s other ads, only the one you’re viewing appears. Although they use the same address in all ads….Weird. i already reported all three as scam to the gumtree company..Hopefully they remove it very, very soon!!
Gotta love these dummies. Who would give away a Friesian with FTSE349 bloodlines. After numerous emails, the seller had agreed to GIVE this horse to us with the agreement of me to pay for shipping of $350.00. They never would provide a phone number or answer any questions about the horse in the emails. Just wanted to hurry up and give the horse away so they could travel to Canada. Wanting to know if this was a scam,I played along. We arrainged for this to take place and recieved an invoice from the shipping company via email and a phone call. The shipping company required a $400 Western Union transfer before the horse would ship. The invoice only had international phone #s and the shipper would not provide a US phone number. Once I asked the shipping agency if this was the “White” Paint we inquired about his answer was “Yes”. So Itold him he had been “BUSTED” As you can tell the add was for a Freisian. (Black).
Hi
The horse’s name is not ebony anymore, it changed to Jeff, and i almost fell for this scheme today.
chantelle
THE HORSE’S NAME IS NOW SPIKY i INQUIRED ABOUT THIS HORSE. SHE CLAIMED IT WAS 9 YRS OLD SHE HAD A NEW JOB AND A MEDICAL TECH AND HER BROTHER WAS IN A CAR ACCIDENT LAST YEAR AND NO LONGER ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF HIM. SHE SAID HE WAS A GELDING AND LIVED IN ALASKA AND IT WOULD COST 1000.00 TO SHIP AND 50.00 FOR HOME DELIVERY. SHE SENT PICTURES AND THEY ARE THE EXACT SAME PICTURES POSTED IN THE AD…..I HAVE SEVERAL PICTURES SHE SENT AND IT’S THE EXACT SAME LADY RIDING THE HORSE AS ON HERE…..
There are alot of these ads on horsetopia.com. I tried to alert them to this but it appears that they are of a suspicious nature. There was no way to report the scams to the site. Just a big runaround. The horses had many different names, no pictures, but all of the nonsense that goes with it.
I recently sent an e-mail to a man claiming to adopting out his friesian. All I said was “free friesian, whats the catch?” Roy or Jesse James, which ever he prefers to be called by sent me an e-mail back about his gelding Hanoverian mare which he referred to constantly as ‘her’ but also said twice in the e-mail that ‘she’ was a gelding. His questions about the horse were vague and dumb “can you cover the cost of a horse? will your children be kind to the horse” etc. Yet his ad was clearly for a friesian. I smell a scam and I don’t think this person has any idea what they are talking about. A warning to buyers.
I contacted this person about the beautiful horse she called Spiky. She claimed she was in Alaska and her brother owned the horse since 2 years old it’s now 9 years old..She sent the exact same pictures that is on this site…She claimed she had a job and her brother was in a car accident and no longer was able to take care of the horse…She claimed it would cost 1000.00 to ship the horse from Alaska to Indiana and 50.00 dollar delivery to home…What a scam how how this person continue to get away with this? I have the pictures she sent to me and it’s the exact same pictures if anyone would like to see the pics i was sent and email the email feel free to contact me and I will be more than happy to sent the emails from her…I wanted this horse really bad as I have ms and wanted a horse that is good for beginners and great with children….I have a love for horses and Spiky as she called him was all i have wanted a in a horse….I’m so broken hearted and glad I clicked on this site to find out about the scam….I don’t understand how someone can scam others esp handicap people…..Thank you so much for putting this on the net if not I would have been out of a lot of money….If anyone has a beautiful black horse willing to sell that is kid safe please contact me…….THIS IS A TERRIBLE SCAM AND THANKS TO THIS POSTING I’M NOT OUT OF 1000.00 OR MORE……THANK YOU AGAIN
Hi I contacted this lady about the horse she got back to me within 15 minutes. I explained to her I was handicap and ask if the horse was child safe. She claimed it was and was claimed out of all the emails concerning the horse that is now called spiky would be better suited with me than anyone….She said she lived in Alaska and the shipping would be 1000.00 but 50.00 home delivery….She asked for full name address phone number etc….also said i would have to be patient for vet records…She claimed her brother owned the horse since spiky was 2 yrs old and is now 9 yrs she said her brother was in a car accident and was no longer able to give spiky the attention and care he needs…..She wanted to ship spiky the next day……I have emails if anyone would like to see what she sent….She also sent pictures and it’s the exact pictures on this site…..She wouldn’t give her number or info as I requested…….This is the big scam and I’m not sure how anyone can get away with it but you can bet I will pursue what emails have been sent back n forth. Will contact my attorney and see if something can be done with these people this is terrible what they are doing…….feel free to contact me I will be more than happy to share emails back n forth between her and I ….
I have encountered this fraud on two horses this weekend, one named Jasper, and one named Larion both on dreamhorse.com–same scam, pay for transportation, adopt Jasper, and pay $3100 for Larion. WATCH OUT!!
The horse is now called Bently a 15.3hh Friesian. I e-mailed them today and then phoned a friend thinking that maybe the horse had been stolen or something. As soon as I got the e-mail about shipping alarm bells rang, it was just to good to be true. My friend found this site and warned me. I would never have parted with any money up front but there are obviously people out there that will.
I wouldn’t have paid for anything up front such as shipping of a horse nor would I give my name or number and address. These people that are scamming others will be brought down….I advise everyone to contact the place the ad is in and any other ad it’s in…Let them know it’s a scam…..If something sounds to good to be true then it is…..I emailed the person and told them how I know about their scam and was contacting my attorney…..I just hope everyone that has contacted this person would do the same…..
I’m not sure how to post all emails from this lady or I would post them all. I can tell you the email they are using now is m4sandra@yahoo.com
shri750@gmail.com e-mailed the month of Dec about 2 Friesians for sale. $700, I only wanted gelding. Next thing I know the horse is on the move form co. to Tx. when I decided to take the horse. I am informed that the horse is at the hauler and to wire 750 and the horse is on it way. Yes I know better but heart desire blinded me stupid. The company e-mailed thier papers of who they were ( Tekence Age) . All seemed Ok until I get a call stateing that they had been stopped by Okl Highway Patrol and Animal control for insurence on horses and for 25000 more the horse could proceed. No I didn’t send the money and I did check with the Okl High Patrol and there was no such stop or such a thing.Check with a reputable hauler and he said that these people were scanning people with alkind of transports. sshi750@gmail.com even e- mailed me to say that she would put up half the money and I could keep it when we got refund at end of trip, told her no one bad decision did not get 2 .I now see pictures of Jason and Jessie all over horse web sites and even in “I look for cheep Friesian. guess it have horse picture will travel.
that is the same one I got but it was Jason and Jessie
I’m more concerned about the saddle-on-the-withers pictures!
My friend had a recent Friesian scam tried on her though…. the woman advertised the horse in Horse Deals Australia and when my friend tried to arrange a viewing/ride the woman said “Well I’m selling him because I’m actually in Thailand at the moment, so I can’t organise that for you” at this point I was saying don’t buy an unseen horse, then the woman came out with “He’s here in Thailand too, so if you want to buy him you have to pay upfront for him and the air transport for him to come to Australia”…. yes, because it’s so normal to pay $5000 for a horse you haven’t seen, then pay another $1000 to ship him to your country. All this just on the understanding that the owner will be honest and not just keep the money and never send him (if he does even exist!).. hmm, no thanks!
seriously, i feel like a fool. I have been conversing with the same people about a fresian….i did send my name and address, but no money. now it is Wilma the Fresian…was in WA, but now in Austin, TX. Lost his wife, sell his gelding for 850. will ship for 650. his email is kellyjones1985@hotmail.com . equinehits horse id# 283715. Guess i’ll be letting equine hits know! like i said, feel like an idiot!
I just took one to the end here.
Didn’t ask for shipping, they said they would pay for shipping just needed name, phone and address and they would deliver to my door step.
Got email from shipper saying seller “Hanna Liky” paid shipping charges in full, horse was on plane and would be delivered on my doorstep 7pm that night…
Hour later shipper called and asked me to pay insurance fee’s that were refundable in cash by transporter who would be dropping horse off…
This site has a fresian add on it that is a SCAM ! they are asking $600 dolloars for a soposadly 8 yr old fresian gelding whos qualifications are worth more than that!The horses name is Jort. they want $500 dollars to ship the horse by plane. Only a western Union will do. The horse was placed on a Kentucky site but the “owner” said he lives in Miami Florida, then the owner using the name Dr. Young Martins, had a “horse hauler” call me, wanting payment immidiatly his name was Rolland Moore. The horse hauler was also supposadly in Miami Florida as well but I was to sent the Western Union to Cameroon, Africa. This is a scam and I hope they get caught!
This horse (same pictures) is listed on horseclicks.com by a woman named Alexsandra and another ad on horseclicks.com by a woman named Bianca. The wording is the same in these ads except the name and the email provided is alexsandrabianci@yahoo.it the same in both ads. This time the horse’s name is Solo and the story is that the woman was in a car accident and will not be able to ride again. She is looking for someone to adopt the horse and pay shipping. This horse is listed as being in Texas, California, Georgia, Michigan, etc.
I did email the seller and asked to come see the horse in person. I have not received a response. Anytime a seller denies the right to see the horse in person, there is a problem. I hope nobody has lost money to this person.
Similar advertisement on itsmymarket.com offering Dela Friesian Mare for adoption some excellent photographs and beautifull animal for £350.00 shipping. Hope no-one falls for it. The owner is apparently a William scott. email wllmscott21@gmail.com
Hey i think his name is Jerkins now, i just got scammed, thankfully i knew not to wire money, he was first advertised in maine, i couldn’t get him, they conveniently moved 4 hrs away from me, and now just want me to pay their vet in the uk. Ha, but heartboken, had already borrowed money, and trailer to get horse, also pasture, how to catch these people?
Hi there,
I felt for your post and just had to say something. I have been looking at legitimate places. what you said made me sad so I thought I’d share a legitimate adoption agency that I’ve been thinking of getting a horse from. I dont know where youre from but they have places all around the US and theyre racehorses which is even better to adopt!
http://www.horseadoption.com/
Ugh i believe I was contacted by this scammer as well, he spoke broken english and said it was “free” because of an accident. Thanks for posting this…now i know not to give away any real personal info. Now i feel absolutely terrible, i was so happy too.
Well…We got the e-mail…researched it and of course found out that it was a scam – This was a Fresian gelding named RENO and the man had a horrible accident and is partially paralyzed and his wife does not ride. Wanted $700, but will give away free to a good home – right!
I suggest that each of you forward this to your local FBI cyber crime unit who has the ability to deal with this on an international level since his e-mail is an international one – let’s sent this fellow and his cronies to prison!
I emailed him about his two Fresian Geldings, Reno and Solo. It seemed convincing to me, so I told him that I was 13 and I had been riding for 4 years and whatnot. Now that i found this site…I’m very scared. I emailed him back telling him I am discontinuing emailing him because I have found it to be a scam. The pictures he sent me did not make sense…as the pictures of SOLO that he sent me were of two totally different horses, and I googled “Friesian Gelding Horses” and found over 7 different ads with the same picture, but different horses’ names. When I told him about my experience with riding he didn’t respond to anything I said, he just replied with the shipping costs and that the horses could stand on their back legs and liked apples…I knew this was way too good to be true. No one gives away Friesian geldings for free. Someone please report this guy. I’m scared.
Just checked back to let you all know what people have to gain from this, there are several ways to scam us, top one being they want to ship the horse for you and that is the only cost they charge, to make it more legit, you pay the shipping company directley, my quote was for 1300 dollars to be wired to this company, its a fraudulent shipping company, so if you fall for that one they got ya, if you insist on picking the horse up, they immediatley need money wired somewhere for vet bills my qoute 770.00, when i said i wouldn’t wire money to uk, they set it up for US. I mess with these particular people now because they like to waste our time and emotions. I have been making fake emails and inquiring about this same horse and letting it go on and on and hear there ridiculous tactics, the latest the horse was there sons who was killed in a car accident a few monthes back and the horse brings back terrible memories so they just have to get rid of him, they will say anything, i had these one people going that i was gonna meet em and all her sister had a brain tumor and was going into surgery. Well after a bout 10 days i finally had to let the cat out of the bag and wrote i wired the money to Kissmiahass Supermarket. They wrote back ” I do not understand what was the 10 diget number” so i wrote back a wacky number and said “do you understand this KISSMIAHASS SUPERMARKET, i hope you enjoyed wasting my time as much as i did yours, its been fun, hope you know i have over 200 addys that i plan on using to waste your time and recoures.” They actually wrote me back saying sorry and they found me to be very funny and interesting and was hoping to be freinds. So if you have free time, i think its worth doing plus i have aquired several different email addys that i have reported. And it makes you feel better about the time they outsmarted me and i thought i was goin to get this horse. They have plenty to gain, and not much to lose, just play the maybe sooner or later it won’t be worth there time, they will have to find a new scam. This horse is everywhere people a lot of others are scams too i believe they are the same people.
Hey Micheal,
Or whoever u really are, do you really think you stand a chance defending yourself, i know you are scammers, and i personally know these pictures right now are for a horse named Jerkins, out of curiosity how many actually wire the money? And who is on this horse? Where did you find pics, i would be mad as heck if you plastered my face all over the internet and everyone knows its a scam. Why don’t you try selling him as a unicorn????? Maybe we’ll fall for that….. talk to you soon or one of the other many names you people go under, but you’ll never know who i am and if iam serious.
Hello all,
I am the latest person to fall for free horse Mandella.
Just yeaterday they sent photoes of this great horse described in the first paragraph. I kept all the emails . If anyone needs a great home for a horse 6-7 or a little younger let me know.
Fran
William Scott is also trying to scam people regarding the sale of other animals too. He tried to scam me when I responded to a http://www.recycler.com (Ca) ad pertaining to a Siberian husky puppy for sale. He said the puppy was AKC registered and that he was an auditor and had no time to take care of the puppy. This guy wanted $200.00 and said that the puppy he called “Dela” would be shipped to me in an air–conditioned crate and that I only had to cover the flight charge. He sent me an email with payment instructions and a link to a pet transportation site he claimed would be responsible for shipping the puppy to me. I then found out that the site was a bogus site he created a couple of days before he posted the ad. His fake site is at http://www.pettransportinternational.com so beware. I checked the owner of this site and it is registered to a Joesph Hawkman in Sunvyvale Ca. 94088, PO Box 61359, tel +1.5105952002. Which I believe is William Scott or his associates. You can checkout the information at http://whois.domaintools.com/pettransportinternational.com. This guy told me everything from he was an Angel from God doing Gods work and so on… just to try and persuade me into trusting him.. Be very careful out there – this guy will go to all extremes to get your money…..
Hey Amy I got the same exact email about James and Jane.This is totally a scam.
Hi, there are similar adverts on itmymarket.com have replied to these people. they are not interested when you say that you will collect the horse. advert is Friesian mare for adoption £350.00 and Strong friesian mare for adoption £150.00 It is interesting to note that they use the same information and pictures on both horses. You can only sell a horse once. Have complained to itsmymarket.com twice but the adverts are still running.
Just came across “Teface” the free Friesian today. After looking into his history, found he had dozens of ads for his sale or adoption all over the world, and here is what his seller had to say:
“Hello ,
Mike as we call him is an exceptional, beautiful fairy
tale 3rd preemie STER Gelding. He has matured to 16H and exhibits a
lovely personality with beautiful flowing gates due to his compact
build. He was imported from the Netherlands in 2004, and has had one
previous owner who did not ride him. His bloodlines are SUPERB (all
Ster, Pref, or Model): Mother is STER,Grandmother is a STER, and
Great-Grandmother is a STER. His Sire, FETSE 349 is a 1st Premium
Stallion Training: In Denmark, Mike was schooled to M1 then
imported. In the U.S. he has been schooled in Spanish Riding School
from Jerez, Spain,and classical dressage. Kept in professional
training for the past 4 years under the supervision of his current
owner,Teface scored an average of 66 1st level this summer. His gates
are lovely,and the canter is to die for! He is registered.He been schooled
in Traditional Spanish Riding Techniques, along with some Western training.
He lounges, long lines and has used a serretta. Temperament: Quiet and
accommodating, this trusting horse should be paired with someone who is
willing to bond with him…he connects with the humans who work with him,
even to the surprise of professionals! Really, no vices and a perfect gentleman.
He is safe enough for a beginning rider, and talented enough for the
more advanced.Lovely mover that can do hunter in hand now, but do not
think he will be tall enough to go at a World level in that class this
year. all we need is a loving home that is willing to take care of
him.i need to go and meet my family that is the reason Mike
needs a home.Mike is easy to ride by kids and is of good temperament
he will come with all his tacks..
will wait to answer any of your questions and to know when you intend
to take him home because i will be going to meet my family as soon as we
find a home for him. Teface will make your family proud believe me.
we would also like to know where you are located?”
Like they say, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is…
i cant remmber the website but i was looking at the same horse up in kent washington and he was free i was looking for this type of horse for show she sent pics and all i was ready to go get him and she would not let me come get him she said i needed to have a pro transport for him and offered her freind for 450.00 dollers witch was only an hour from where i lived i told her no i will do this my self she said no so i tested her and got someone to do this and she told me that the person i got wasnt good enough well i told the women that she didnt want to give the horse up and that my time and heart was wasted when i found the web agien she had removed the add the next day
Hey all…
These people are really soooooo stupid, they would sue themselves. But anyway, they make people really negative about horses. I wanted a horse so badly and a lady e-mailed me saying she has a horse up for free adoption to the right home. I was really sceptic and thought I can’t trust her. Started asking her the usual questions I ask when people mention a free horse to me, asked for her number, gave her a call, asked directions etc. I found out that it wasn’t a scam after all…And I am sooooo glad right now that I took the time to talk to her after I almost fell into one of this scams. But still, they make people negative and if I didn’t trust my instincts, I would have let this horse slip through my fingers and it would have been a disaster…!! She is the greatest horse ever
What I am actually trying to say is, don’t jump to conclusions and accuse anyone before you are sure of your facts. Some people really just want to find good homes for their horses and really doesn’t want to con you. I know most people do, but not all. So ask them all the questions, mention that you want to try the horse before you take it…. Who knows?? There is horses out there for all of us!!!
This horse was listed as a horse named “Jerkins” just this week. The woman is now Helen Powell out of Cottonwood Heights, Utah.
Beware of a scam artist posing as Steven Hudson.
His e-mail address was stevenhudson7@gmail.com
He advertised on Horsetophia, to give a way 2 9 yr old Friesian horses, Rosy & Ryan.
They were originally free in the ad, but then I was to pay $4,000 for shipping.
The ad was originally in NB but he lived in Houston Texas and was relocating to New York, but I think he was operating and residing in Cameroon.
He was using a shipping company called Rainbow Animal Express. I think this was his own scam company to, one minute I am receiving 2 horses the next a puppy.
The e-mails were endless and on occasions he couldn’t remember if he was Steven Hudson or Steven Brown.
Here is the fake posting I recieved- After several emails it was clear that it is a scam—Please dont send these people ANY money!! SCAM: chantynice@ymail.com
Franky is a black 16.1hh friesian fantastic all rounder. This superb
horse is very sadly up for sale because we have outgrown him. Franky
is everything you could want in a horse and more. 9 years young with
no health problems. Franky will be a L/R to a 1st horse, then on to
your child’s 2nd Horsey. My niece has had great fun on him and he
has taken her to 116.1hh strong horse. Had we not have had the pleasure
of owning him, she wouldn’t be where she is today. Franky is placed
every time out, now competing at 2’6″ with ease. We took him hunting &
he loved it. Done all PC activities, excels at games. Snaffle mouthed,
but fast against the clock and can turn on a sixpence. He never
refuses a fence, enjoys XC as well. Schools on his own and in company.
Franky hacks out alone and in company. He is a superb Horse, everything
you could ever want in a horse and more.
Just be careful when playing with these guys. Don’t make yourself a target.
Lots of poor souls fall for this, and send the money, even over here in Australia. It goes the other way as well when you have something to sell. They want you to pay the shipping, and they will add it to the cost of the item. In my dads case it was his merc, and in my neighbours it was their buying of a motorbike.
Remember…IF IT SOUNDS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, THEN IT PROBABLY ISN’T!
http://www.horsetopia.com/for-sale/classifieds/ad443137
Tracked IP Address to ….Douala, Cameroon
I have received a email in reply to my wanted ad for jerkins, a superb friesian named jerkins, we called the number to speak to a supposed helen powell and just got some chap speaking broken english stating he was in the isle of man and we would need to pay £650 for shipping and £600 for jerkins!! we were obviously unable to view him first…
I HAD THE EMAIL LAST NIGHT AND I RUNG THE PERSON ASKING TO SPEAK TO HELEN THE NUMBER HE PUT EMAIL WAS 07031880544 AND MAN WITH BROKEN ENGLISH TOLD IT WAS IS HORSE AND HE WANTED TO SELL IS FRIESIAN AS HE HAD CAR ACCIDENT HE TOLD ME HE WAS IN THE ISLE OF MAN .AND IF SEND HIM DETAILS HE WOULD BOX THE HORSE FOR 750 AND I PAY FOR THE 600.THE GIRL EMAIL ADDDRESS WAS HELEN POWELL25.@GMAIL.COM. BUT THE EMAILS I GOT THEY DID SIGN IT. THEY SENT ME A PEDIGREE CHART WHICH YOU CANNOT SEE. I WOULD NOT LIKE TO BE THAT GIRL PICTURE OF HER HORSE AND FACE SENT EVERY WHERE EOPLE ARE JUST AFTER MONEY. I HOPE NO FALL FOR THIS SCAM
I found out this website on dreamhorse.com aswell to be a scammer in MS so i really think he is a scammer no one fall for him like my cousen almost did! and i almost tried to buy this poor non exsistant friesian myself..
I saw this add in the Loot. A local add paper in Warrington Cheshire UK. Said it was local, 15.3hh x 4yrs old. Contakted owner, reply said 16hh 8yrs. Gave them my horse related history, thay said thay are in Schotland x the horse was in Irland. Shipping £400 (That gave it away as a scam.)
Same horse same pic’s now named Spiky!
THE SHIPPING AGENCE DUSE NOT EXIST!!!
You pay for shipping x thay take your money, you never hear from them again.
I didn’t fall for it x I have reported it to the Newse paper’s, Police, and traiding standerds.
Almost fell for “Spiky” in the latest incarnation of this wicked scam ad on the LOOT WEBSITE
http://www.loot.com/advert/friesian-gelding-horse-for-adoption/2919858 Here in England Beware you guys, thy live among us.
Fortunately, they picked on the wrong guy in this instance due to my profession, I have excellent T4 trace software, and international police force co-ops in place (for tracing online sexual predators) But scam artists will do just as well.
I will keep you informed of the imminent result, some of this will be a lot closer to home than you think it is.
Regards.
Nick
There is a new sam I suspect in progress with a friesan called Miena. He is being sold by a man alledegly in Cork who can’t speak english on the phone, asks you to email him, then runs days after days of sob stories about wife having operation, horse needs good home etc. But when youoffer to go and see the horse and collect him yourself, you are met with silence. He will also send youpictures of the same horse above but in different scenarios that are not IRELAND, either SPain or America (we are a green country)He will then reply about a paper fee needed and his friend can transport. I’m still emailing just to drag it out for badness, DO NOT PART WITH A CENT UNLESS YOU SEE THE ANIMAL>
The scam is still going strong and currently adverts are being run in the Bargain Pages
Thanks for your wounderful response.i read about your life and
discovered you are a well experience horse owner and i could not
hasitate to take this descion to hand over these lovely baby for
adoption to you.we are at the moment in Inverness Scotland ok,let me
explain how it all works,First i will get Spiky registered with the
delivery service,as soon as that is done,their vet experts will conduct
recent vet checkups on the horse to confirm that he is health wise fit
to travel after which the shall be contacting you directly for the
flight booking fee,As soon as that is confirmed , also they will
provide you with the complete delivery details as soon as everything is
set to go.O.k these are the details i will be needing from you to get
Spiky registered to be shipped over,the delivery service will be using
these details to contact you directly for the flight charges as well as
making the shipment to you.The transportation fee will be £450 i and
there is a home delivery option available at an extra £50 if that will
be ok by you i could notify them you will be needing a home delivery
when i get the horse registered to be shipped over AND YOU WILL RECIEVE
HIM THESAME DAY .O.k below are the details i will be needing from you
to set up the arrangements for the horse to be Transported over
tomorrow or monday morning if that will be ok by you. As regards the
vet , you will just be patient and hear from a agency vet please .
Since they will have to run some test before confirming that the horse
is perfect/healthy for transportationGet back with the following
informationFull Names of the receiver,Contact Phone Numbers(Home and
Mobile)Complete Delivery Address,City/State/Zip CodeEmail Address,Fax
Number(Optional)Closest Airport to your location.Spiky get psylium
monthlyand has had it’s dental work and wolf teeth removedWe use fly
predators for spiky too .He is kept in my brothers property where i
live with my brother and spiky .Yes he enjoys trail rides and i do
blanket him .He really loves carrots ad treats and i think he might
like a mixture of orchard and alfalfahe is also good with water
crossing .You talk as though you just know everything about horses and
i don’t think another person will deserve spiky better than you .You
can ring us at 07031869673Thanks
This time under the name of
Glory Chosin
I found a similar horse on horseclicks for $700 and inquired about it. I thought maybe it was a typo or something. Anyway, I received this email back from “Bianca Alexsandro” with an email address of alexsandrabianci@yahoo.it
“Good day,
Thank you for your e-mail and the interest you have for my
horse (RENO), the horse is still available for adoption
He is 6 years old, vaccinated and all his medical records are up to date, the horse is 163 centimeters high now.
Please, I want you to let you know that we love the game of horse0.It is only because I had an accident and my husband cannot ride the horse because he is very concerned about my accident. so that is why I am giving the horse out for adoption
The horse is very beautiful, trained for dressage, English,western
and increase the pleasure in our house, I want to give the
horse to someone or a family that will show love, care and attention. a person who knows how to care for a horses as Solo,
Please, before Accepting to give the horse to you, I love you
answer some questions, so that I may know the type of
home that will be on horseback
Here are the questions:
How old are you?
Have you ever had a horse before?
Do you know how to take care of a horse?
When are you ready to receive the horse?
Are you going to Take very good care of the horse?
Have a range that will take the horse?
Do you know dressage in horses?
where are you located presently?
Please, I’m very sorry for all the question, I just want to
Make sure that you will take very good care of the horse, and also that my horse will be happy in your home, . Thank you very much and we will be waiting for the quick response.
Regards
Bianca Alexsandro”
After doing some research, I found this same horse all over the US with the same name and with different names and most of the “owners” had suffered the same accident and were in the same situation. Needless to say, My return email was less then polite. Not that they care, but it made me pretty dang angry…
Here is a new one: A Friesian named “Powell” who has schooled up to 2nd level dressage. Does it all including Spanish Walk and a bow. Offered for $1500 from Karen Brian [karen.brian56@yahoo.com]. Upon contacting her, she sent me this elegant description of him and some pictures. She said that she was selling him because she had lost a leg in an accident. I wrote her back saying that I was interested, could I come and see him? She wrote me back and, in very broken English, said that she wanted a deposit to hold him for me, because she had so many other “clients” looking at him. (I think she asked for a deposit because I am located very close to where she said he was, and therefore couldn’t ask for a shipping fee.) When I replied that I was very hesitant to pay a deposit on a horse that I haven’t seen, but that I could come as early as 5 days from then, she responded that I “Just needed to trust her” and that she wouldn’t be available when I wanted to come see the horse (Pretty great, huh?). Sounds like this isn’t even slightly the first time that a scam like this has happened!!
I was recently contacted and sent the same pictures as the middle 3 (woman with red top) I live in the UK and advert was meant to be in Cardiff. e-mail used this time was markmoore1036@yahoo.co.uk
Horse is now called Mark he’s a 16hh 10yrs Friesian gelding in dressage training and can also be driven in harness for £800. E-mail was written in broken English and the story was that his wife passed away a few years ago. The horse was purchased as a companion for his daughter to help her cope but then she died in a car accident a month back. He was told by his doctor to sell the horse as it was making him ‘think’. What sort of person would make up such cruel things? I didn’t know whether to cry or laugh! Most of the e-mail didn’t make sense i.e. look forward to speaking to you soonest. He also put a load of questions on it:
Where are you located?-
Have you ever had a Friesian Gelding before?-
What is your experience with Friesian Geldings?-
What is your nature of job and hope you will have time to take care of Mark?-
Are you married?If yes do you have kids?-
Do you have a private barn for Mark?-
Why do you need Mark,just for companion or for some other reasons?-
Hope you will give him all the love,attention and also take very good care of Him?-
Do you want to have him transported and delivered over to you?-
How soon do you need to have Mark?-
Do you have a number that we can talk on phone?-
He said his numbers are 07031850970 or 07031802884. Haven’t bothered to try them as neither of them are Cardiff numbers!!!!
HI , I have been looking for a friesian gelding for 5 weeks and when I saw this add asking for £800 i thaught I was finally getting some good luck, however I was then asked to pay 1000 pounds delivery striaght away and the horse would be delivered the next day. Very suspicious since the guy Mark Moore was suposed to care so much for the horse – I could have been a dog food factory for gods sake. Said his daughter had recently died in car accident, wife also died previously which is why he bought horse for daughter. Horrible man – terrible accent – very bad english and hope he gets his come uppance in hell!!! Vile personA horse like this should cost at least £5000 not £800 he then said he would give the horse to me – i just had to pay the delivery – must think my head buttons up the back – vile swine.
(from england)
I have recieved an email from markmoore@yahoo.com
I was told a very sad story by a man who had recently lost his wife and daughter in a car accident and needed to find a home for his beautiful friesan gelding called Mark!
I was asked all the questions…
Am i single, where i live, have i had a horse before ect…
Was told that the horse was in scotland, i was given a full address
Mark moore Love
10 achvarasdal cottage, Reay, Thurso, Caithness, scotland.
I was hold that the horse could be delivered to me in two days and i wouldnt have to pay anything untill the horse arrived!
I was sent pictures, a veterinary certificate with a vets stamp by beckett and associate vet services, Dr Andy Mcnab.(which when googled i found that the vet was in america!!)
I was given many numbers to call to arrange the transportation…
07031850970/ 07031802884/ 07823030866/ 07031884521
For transportation of this horse they told me that they would use this web site….
http://www.inpetflight.tk
I found the advert for this horse on http://www.horsehunter.co.uk
well i’m also shocked as they got my address phone numbers and pictures of my daughter riding that they asked for so next it could be pictures of her riding and the horses for sale these people need shutting down.
Greetings!
From what I gather, it’s a scam to get you to pay the shipping for a horse you will never receive. And did you notice that the grammar in the emails is atrocious?
Another possibilty is they want all our personal information so they can rob us.
I enquired about a horse and received another email from someone who wanted to give me two horses without knowing where I lived. The shipping charge was $750 from Alaska to NH! I don’t think so – it’s more like $3000.00.
Like the police said: “if it sounds too good to be true, it’s probably a scam.”
Thank you for posting the website: http://www.inpetflight.tk I have sent in an abuse report to have it taken down. Remember, any buyer insisting on Western Union/Money Gram is a scammer, that simple. Any pet or animal being shipped from Cameroon or West Africa is a scam, that simple. If you run across websites from the scammers or phone numbers or email address, please post them as we can keep track of the gang and warn others.
I received this from THIS email: jimmytod90@yahoo.com
Name: Jimmy Tod
Ad as follows:
hello i have this male gelding black Frisian horse looking for a new family . He is 9 years , 16.2 hands and is ready to go to the best home that i can find . get back to me if you are interested
(Located Sydney, Australia)
Email:
Hello
thanks for your interest in my horse
The horse is still available and I am willing to give him to the best home that i can find .
His name is Gabriel and he is 9 years old , 160 cm tall , and a gelding
horse name …………Gabriel
horse date of birth…………. 01 – 12 – 2001
age …………………9 years old
sex (gender ) ………….gelding
weight ………………..1000kg
height ………………..162.2 cm
Colour ……………….black
breed …………………friesian
health …………………medically update ( alright)
temperateness………….three
We have lived with him all our lives and letting him go is a very difficult decision that we had to make . This is due to the fact that we have to move since i have just been posted and it is rather unfortunate that we cannot take him along .
That is why my wife and I want to make sure we get him the best of homes before we move .
We are not interested in money , all we want is a secured loving and caring home for Gabriel.
In that light , we are putting him out on an adoption price of $1000 and we are willing to consider offers on the price . That price will include making the transfer of ownership documents and his delivery fee to you if you will not to able to come and pick him up personally .
If you can guarantee us that you will give him all the love and attention that he deserves , then we will give him to you .
We will be thrilled if you can come ride Gabriel before taking him . If for any reason you cannot come here to get him , we will equally be happy to get him delivered to your home if you promise us love and care for Gabriel .
If you are fine with this so far then get back to us with the answers to the following
Are you Married ?
Full names ?
Phone number?
Have you ever had a horse before ?
Do you have a Barn or a stable for him ?
Do you have kids ?
How old are you ?
How soon do you need him ?
Do not bother about the questions , we just want to be sure that we are not missing a home for Gabriel . We also want to get to know the person who will be taking our lovely Gabriel .
Feel free to ask your questions if you do have any and remember to reply promptly .
Thanks
(images of “Gabriel” with a man in a white shirt & jeans and a fake registration)
Reply Email:
Hello
Thanks for your prompt reply , i am so happy that i am about to find a loving family for Gabriel . He can be stabled just at night and i will be sending you a video and hand book on his diet, feeding and health treatments .
He is well trained and has a very calm behavior due to his bringing up and i want you to know that he is fun even with children and other household pets . He has no problem with company nor has any vices .
He will come with all his health and vet records . Like i told you before , i have to move tomorrow and i want to make sure that you have him before i move so i will appreciate it if you can come view him before taking him . I relocated on job placement to London UK and my company is sending me out station to US and i want to make sure that he gets in good hands before i leave . So if for any reason you will not be able to come and pick him up personally , then i could get him delivered to your home address via a delivery agency . I will give you any information or document for your convenience . So we have to arrange how he will get to you . If you keep to your promise to give him all the love and care that he deserves then we will give him to you . So all you need do now is to get back to
me with your full information so that i can begin making the transfer of ownership documents
full names….
house address…
city…..
state…..
zip code…..
phone number……
airport closest to your location…..
when i get your above data , i will immediately start making the transfer documents and later take the horse to the delivery agency who will bring and deliver the horse at your home asap if you will not be able to come pick him up personally , due to time constraints this is an option . The agency offers door to door services and will bring Gabriel right to your home . All you have to do is to pay them the delivery fee of 1000$ with transfer document fee included and you are paying the money directly to them . We are not interested in money all we want is a good home for Gabriel so get back asap with the details that i asked . You can call me at +23779684227 .
thanks and waiting
Number links to Cameroon, Africa & bloodline certificate is VERY poorly altered – BEWARE!!
I found on horsetopia.com the same kind of add. I was so interested, then I noticed it was not the same horse in the pictures, so I googled it and found the same pictures and other ads for the “same horse” that had all different information. The horses name was lucky and he was 7 years old/16.3hh and then the other ads were way off like 4 yeard and 15.2 hh. I confronted her and asked her about everything and she never replied. WATCH OUT FOR SCAMMERS,
I have also come into contact with scammers like these! 2 as far as I can tell from the info given here. First I got an email after an inquiry from ashleybens@live.com, who advertised her horse(without mentioning a name)who said in the ad their name was Jenny but replied with the name ashley.In the email they said the horse’s name was Jag. They also said they had “left the states last night for Africa, In Cameroon” so we would need to give our address, exact location, etc.Offering to sell him to us for only $1500 since he was coming with “all his tacks.” Here’s the list of questions they asked me:
1.. have you ever had a friesian gelding?
2..Do you have other horses?
3. can you take care of the feeding of Jag?
4 do you ride so ofter>
5 Are you a good and not a hash rider?
6 where are you located?
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The 2nd scam:
The teface scam.
From email address simonsdolly92@gmail.com
This one was from equinehits.com. They also asked me wierd questions when I had just inquired about the horse’s abilities with no answers to my own questions but they were wanting to know more about my location than anything else. This person also told me this friesian was a STER out of FETSE 349. How unbelieveable. Their story was that they had “an urgent call in Haiti.”
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3rd scam:
Sent by email: fiona_jerry@yahoo.com
Like many others, you inquire about a horse and by the second email, after you have asked unanswered questions, the seller is talking about paying for shipping! This seems to be the same scam as other witnessed about the “trail horse deluxe.” Here’s a bit of what the 1st email said, the same wording as other scams mentioned above!:
“hanks for the mail and interest on my friesian gelding . Max
is 16.1 hands and he is 7 years old . He will come with all health papers and
one year health guarantee. this gelding {Max} is not only beautiful, he is
healthy , great, sane, trail horse deluxe! . He has
awesome four beat gaits. He will also canter if you ask him to. he is not
spooky, forward moving and enjoys trail riding. ”
In the next email I went on to ask again about jumping abilities and got no response to my own questions, just wanting to know about the shipping charges.
This has been quite disappointing and scandalous to me because this is my first time to buy a horse and my search has not been very pleasing.:( x10
I also forgot to add that on the scam which came from an “ashley bens,” the person wrote at the end of the email and signed it “Jeremy.” Hmmm….. who are these people, anyway????
from Alba Moreno
to bmw3m3cha@gmail.com
date Sun, May 23, 2010 at 5:10 PM
subject Tango!!!!!!!!! Friesian Gelding
Greetings
Thanks for the mail and interest on my friesian gelding . I have just one left . His name is Tango .He will come with all health papers and one year health guarantee. this gelding {Tango} is not only beautiful, completely healthy and sound, great, sane, trail horse deluxe! has awesome four beat gaits.I am taking my horse off the market as a riding horse as i do not have a rider for him since i was involved in a car accident with my husband and both of us can’t ride anymore , therefore i am unable to take video’s of him being ridden .; This super gelding has the most amazing paces. His walk is huge with a great over track. His trot is off the floor, uphill, floating & extremely big. he has a fab canter which is powered from behind. Tango has lovely temperament. he is good in all respects. he will travel in a trailer or lorry & is happy to stand in the box munching hay at shows. he will hack out alone & in company. he is very forward when hacking so wouldn`t be suitable for a novice. he has been cantered in open spaces & is very well behaved. When hacking alone he has a good imagination but is not silly with it. Tango has been lightly competed. Judges love him.. he always gets fab comments like super paces (normally receiving 8`s). he is how ever rusty on Half pass as i am
not sure how to do this. he has an amazing medium trot as well. Recently a friend had started training him in changes, he would still need more training to perfect this but looked like he would pick this up with ease. he has had regular coaching with a friend who is a class 2 dressage judge. Tango can jump, but this is not my thing so he could do with further education on this subject.
Before i brought him home from Holland when he was 2, he was professionally trained & was put through his gelding performance with super results. he scored the following; WALK 8. TROT 7. CANTER 7. RIDABILITY 7 & 8. JUMPING2 X 7. he has full pink papers & is branded.
My Wife was an experienced beginner and he really enjoyed riding him where as I am an experienced rider and also enjoy riding Tango . So therefore, I am sure that it will be great for just about any riding level from experienced beginner on up the scale. I also know that Tango would make a fantastic field trial horse if someone was interested in him for that because Tango has great endurance and
listens so well. I want Tango to find a great home and will only sell to such a home. Also, Tango is fine with other horses or without them .He has lived in a boarding situation before and did just as well as he does in a private home situation .up to date on vaccines and dental care . I don’t know what else I can say about Tango other than if you are looking for a horse that will be the same everyday and bring you hours of enjoyment whether out on the trail or in the pasture then, it might be the horse for you! I thought I would go ahead and post him so that somebody could start enjoying him .Before i let you have the
gelding i will like to know the following
Have you ever had a horse before ??
Do you own a Ranch??
Are you an experienced Rider or a Beginner??
How soon do you need this gelding ??
Where are you located ??
I am asking all these question so as to make sure that the gelding gets into the hands of some one who will take proper care of the gelding ..Do email me when you shall come to test ride and take the horse along. Tango is for $1800.
Thanks and waiting to read from you
Hello,
I have been through this twice!! I should’ve known that this was all so good to be true! It’s a good thing my parents knew something was up like….”Why for so low? How come no one else got this horse before I did despite the fact that the ad as been out for a while?” Simons Dolly Dolly was the name of a girl who said she had to go to Haiti for a job and can no longer keep the horse therefore she putting it up for adoption.
*She wanted to ship the horse and have us pay.
*Horse was up for adoption, not for sale.
*Did not give us an address after we asked them to over and over again.
*Said they need Full Name/Address/phone number
Word or advice….if it’s too good to be true, IT’S NOT TRUE!!!!!
They try to convince you in any way, I cried for that person but now I laugh, because they have a life they make it this way and it’s how it is…
DON’T EVER BELIEVE ANYONE WITH A FRIESIAN FOR SUCH A LOW PRICE IT CAN’T BE TRUE!!!!!
June 30, 2010
Well I am so glad I looked up this scam!! I had a guy claiming he was from Albany New York tell me he wants to ship t me in CANADA of course – here is some of the email……
It was nice reading from you once again, i am very sorry for the delay respond.Well to have Dela delivered over to your location is going to cost $800 which you will be paying to the delivery agency which will be transporting Dela at your home. Once i get your full
information i will take Dela to the delivery agency and register her there with your names and address tagged to her to be delivered at your home . After i must have been through with Dela’s registration at the agency,they will contact you to direct you on how you will be making the payment to them for the delivery fee of Dela so that they can proceed with the delivery of Dela at your home.They will also give you the full delivery details which are ,the departure and arrival time of Dela at your home.Please you will have to promise me that you will take good care of Dela OK.For me to have Dela registered at the delivery agency,i will need to have your full details which i will use in the registration.These details include;
>
> Your Full Names………….Your City………………….Your Postal
> Code…………..Your Home Address………Your Contact
> Numbers……………I will be sending Dela together with all her
> papers tagged to her and with a hand manual and she is 16.hh and
> weighs 1070 pounds .See some of her pictures and can i also have some
> of you pictures. I wait to read from you soon.Regards
> Thanks and Stay Blessed
> Jeffrey Cochran
>
I’ve come across this same horse and rider picture with two different sellers in the last day. One called him “Treasure” and the other is calling him “Lino” or aka “Jack”. I’ve already ceased contact with the guy calling him “Treasure” because I compared the photos each seller sent me and noticed it was the same rider but in different times throughout the year. He claimed to be a pastor in Ontario when the ad had been for New Mexico. He said that he thought no one would be interested in the horse if they new he was out of the US. SCAM! First he said his name was Dwealth Scofield then in the next email he said his name was Ken Obi. I’m still currently emailing the one who calls the horse “Jack”. I’m messing around a bit to see how it goes. So far he has sent two emails and neither have contained questions regarding shipping or personal information. Still, I’m warry. Something I’ve noticed as of late is people “selling” friesians in every single state for very low prices. So far the names to look out for are MILEY, LODO, KIMLY, TEX, TREASURE, and several others. If someone is legitimately selling a horse then they will HONESTLY sell the horse in the state of which they are located. I do, however, wonder who the real owner of this horse is. The pictures I have are of a different friesian horse but at the same house. Unless, one picture shows the horse more sun burnt than the ones I have. Regardless, it is the same place with multiple sellers. I can say that if you want a safer mind-set that you are not being scamed then go to equinenow.com because so far I haven’t found any scams on their websight. Someone correct me if I’m wrong. These people seriously need to be put away for their crimes. It is heartless to prey on those who love these magnificent creatures for all that they are.
I finally sent one of the scammers an email telling them to knock off the scam, and of course, I never got a response. If you have any doubt about these people being scammers, you can always tell after you accuse them of scamming because they never email back. If they were a motivated seller with a horse to sell, they would at least respond and try to explain. I hope no one ever gets scammed by these people.
I know this is OLD but please everyone beware of The Devorah Aikman..She is a Horse Hoarder and just recently had 2 Stallion taken from her that were being starved in Stepehnville Texas..Please google her and the town and you will see what she has done.
Let me correct the spelling of the town..stephenville texas..Call the POLICE there and they will give you an earful..She responds by lieing..PLEASE DEVORAH AIKMAN IS A HORSE ABUSER AND HOARDER AND NOT A HORSE TRAINER…PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD…CHECK WITH THE STEPHENVILLE POLICE AND GOOGLE HER AND SEE THE ARREST AND THE HORRIBLE BEFORE AND AFTER PICTURES. DO NOT BELIEVE HER LIES..SHE IS A MASTER OF MANIPULATION
Have had a guy under the name james says he is from Queenstown newzealand and he has recently had a car accident and now got injury on spine so cant ride horses any more.
This is what he replied:
What do u think i will get him for free.A Fresian to adopt???????????Hmmmmmmm?????????????????
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Hello,and thanks for the interest in my lovely baby for he is
still available and very ready to join a new family.he has all his
papers, and is also current on all his cog gins tests with close
medical attention, he is very well socialized with little children and
other household pets. Also he has a temperament of two.He was called
Romeo but i gave him a change of name to Max. i would like to give you
a background history of this handsome boy.
Breed…………………. friesian
Bloodline………………Eibert (Sire)
Height………………….162 cm / 16.0 Hands
Color…………………… black
Weight…………………1150 pds
Health Status…………Vet Checked / medically updated
sex ……………………..Gelding
Age………………………7years
Max is a handsome boy; just take a look at his head and you will
be sold! He has a special look that can´t be described: sweet and very
affectionate. He has a good conformation of the body and will
become a bit taller than he is now.
Character
Affectionate in all the ways, easy going non-complicated character,
intelligent and cool minded are the words which describe him best
Movement
Perfect forward going movement with a good knee action and a more than
perfect action from behind
Extra’s
Lovely horse which will make a perfect family horse with potential for
dressage and showing
Potential
Max is a well trained riding and driving horse which is perfect for
dressage and driving for those who are used to horses.
I just suffered from a car accident that affected my spine and i
was advised by my doctor not to ride anymore .so i am looking for that
loving and caring family that will adopt him and spoil him with much
love and care .
Please i will like to ask you some few question’s to gain your
experience in Horse Care
Are you married ?
How many kids do you have ?
Do you have a stable ?
What do you think about horses ?
Have you ever owned a horse before ?
What is your exact location ?
Please get back to me with answers to the above questions
so that i can forward you some of his recent pictures. Also, i will
like to have your phone number so that i can give you a call.waiting
to read from you at your earliest convenience.
——————————————————————————–Is this a scam?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Hello,and thanks for the interest in my lovely baby for he is
still available and very ready to join a new family.he has all his
papers, and is also current on all his cog gins tests with close
medical attention, he is very well socialized with little children and
other household pets. Also he has a temperament of two.He was called
Romeo but i gave him a change of name to Max. i would like to give you
a background history of this handsome boy.
Breed…………………. friesian
Bloodline………………Eibert (Sire)
Height………………….162 cm / 16.0 Hands
Color…………………… black
Weight…………………1150 pds
Health Status…………Vet Checked / medically updated
sex ……………………..Gelding
Age………………………7years
Max is a handsome boy; just take a look at his head and you will
be sold! He has a special look that can´t be described: sweet and very
affectionate. He has a good conformation of the body and will
become a bit taller than he is now.
Character
Affectionate in all the ways, easy going non-complicated character,
intelligent and cool minded are the words which describe him best
Movement
Perfect forward going movement with a good knee action and a more than
perfect action from behind
Extra’s
Lovely horse which will make a perfect family horse with potential for
dressage and showing
Potential
Max is a well trained riding and driving horse which is perfect for
dressage and driving for those who are used to horses.
I just suffered from a car accident that affected my spine and i
was advised by my doctor not to ride anymore .so i am looking for that
loving and caring family that will adopt him and spoil him with much
love and care .
Please i will like to ask you some few question’s to gain your
experience in Horse Care
Are you married ?
How many kids do you have ?
Do you have a stable ?
What do you think about horses ?
Have you ever owned a horse before ?
What is your exact location ?
Please get back to me with answers to the above questions
so that i can forward you some of his recent pictures. Also, i will
like to have your phone number so that i can give you a call.waiting
to read from you at your earliest convenience.
I found a fresian by the name leroy on dream horse. the lady took forever to answer back and when she did gave me a sob storie about how she was in a caracsident and broke hor back and now is in a weel chair. She then sent me pics of leroy and they are the same horse at the top of the page just pasted on another backround. When i started to wonder if the story was tru i asked for a vet of my choosing to go look at him she was fine with that but would not give me the horse’s location. I then asked for a copy of papers and registration number she never gave me that either. I asked her to cll me she said her dad would but never recived a call. After shwoing her this website she told me she was a prat of creating it and that she found others were using her horse’s pics with bad intentions. When i told her i could not take the horse she told me he would have been happy in my home and sent me best wishes and i havent heard from her since!
this is the same one as in the uk, i got the emial to and apparently he had two friesian geldings for rehoming , due to the fact he can never walk again, but i would also need to pay £500 do get them delivered to my home, he was operatig under the name willian though, but used the same photos as ^^ those. he said he lived in england then said he was curently in ireland he’d need our full names, adress,telephone no. and >credit card details!< ( basicly the same story as the rest)
crap i think i just got scammed the lady said she would ship me the horse and i would pay the company for the shipping and not her. She said i could ride the horse for 2 weeks and see if i like her then send her the payment for the horse. She now has my address,phone number, and name what should i do please help!!!!
The horses name is Davina and the website ishttp://www.horseclicks.com/horses/4ptp9j/
PLEASE HELP!!!!!
Here is a scam I found, most likely from the same person there email is chrismorgan068@gmail.com
hello,
Good day and accept season’s greetings. Mark Fan`e
Goaijengeamieden aka Toby is a seven year old friesian colt foaled
in holland. Toby is in good medical conditions and is currently standing
16.2hands now.
Toby is sired by Brandus 345 one of the leading friesian gelding of
holland.his dam was a ster mare Unieke Van De Zonschate out of Tsjerk 328.
he is currently at second level movements.he has 3 excellent gaits
which include a comfortable trot and canter that would make any rider
enjoy the experience.
Just practice to keep him on his rear end and keeps him backed off
the bit. We do both on all our horses. he is broke like a reining
horse, Spins, Slides, Reverse Arcs, Side Passes, Breaks at the Poll.
You can bump his head down low at a lope.
With all his power/presence, you can take him from the show ring,
right out on to the trail or a parade! Canter departs from a dead
stop, rein backs from your seat! Driving Pro to the extreme
he has had a mind of gold thru his entire training program and his
breeding is tremendous . he is very good for breeding now . he’s
quick and handy and loaded with cow! All the basics are solid,nice
soft stops . great ability to get along with other horses courageously
without arguments .Good feet – healthy and in proportion to his body
Pronounced set of withers
Good traveler – will walk about 4 mph alone, but can slow to 3 mph
when leading a pack string ,Stands tied patiently without pulling back
. he Loads and unloads without fuss ,Stand tied patiently without
pawing ,Cross water, mud and bridges ,Walk down the trail without
falling off Turn around on a narrow trail .he really has got a
Good dose of “horse sense” he is a very willing horse that has proven
his dynamic skills in high jumping and dressage at various shows.he
has jumped 6ft1.5 inches lately,he was used
by a champion at equitation in the netherlands last year.he posses
rare traits and attributes that make him capable of adapting at
various disciplines.great for vet and farrier, trailers well, bathes
and cross ties without problems. No vices,negative coggins, clean
legs, UTD on all inoculations.he is calm and gentle with an admirable
temperament of 3(1-calm and bombproof, 10-spirited and hot)
never easily spooked and this is what has made him an attractive
riding partner even for children not only beginners because of his
tenderness.has been riden by all types of riders .
I had two horses but rinke is left.The reason i am giving out my gelding
is that I have had a traumatic experience since my transfer to work
here in Cameroon and that let to the loss of one of my horses.I had to
move with my two horses on my transfer because i placed an ad to sell
them while back in the united states but no one could buy them at the
price and i had limited time to prepare to travel out and since I had
no one left behind in the states to take care of them i had to travel
with the two horses i had Toby the gelding and kiki the mare the mare that
was killed) .Unfortunately,by keeping the horses on their own with no
body to watch over them while i was at work, the mare was killed by the
indegens here and am shocked that the government doesn’t have
adequate laws that protect and secure animal life.so the mare was
killed by the indegens and
that has frustrated me so much that i had to update this
ad again so that even if i do not find a buyer i can atleast find
someone to adopt this gelding that is left because
i have not yet recovered from the pain of losing my mare. its been
very disappointing and i cant imagine taking such a heartbreak again,
if anything should happen to Toby the gelding.I am getting a training
program here in Cameroon and my work gives me very limited time even
to ride Toby.i would rather prefer giving him for adoption than
waiting to lose this gelding.the other has been a big loss for me.so
please i will be greatful in getting more assurance with answers to
the following..
1..Do you have access to health clinic or medical facilities to render
medical care to horses. and do you have other horses..
2..Do you have someone to care for the horse in your absence.
3..What do you want to use this horse for..or if you are a rider what
level have you attained?
4..Do you have enough for his feeding and upkeep.
5..Can you send me some pictures of your land and barn,that i may know
where
the horse will possibly stay.i will like it much if you come to
see him so i know i can be more assured in knowing you personally and
entrust him in to your care for him to be given the care he deserves
in a safe environment..I must know if you have experience with
horses.I have done my best to provide the best possible care to this
horse and have had him visit a medical checks several times to ensure
that he is out of vices and has good medical records with negative coggins.
so he is doing well and will be very performant in any discipline
because is very willing and he hardly forgets a lesson. so i am
looking in to it that he gets the best and all the love from any
experienced person who is a horse lover capable of loving and caring
for this horse as one of his or hers.i hope you can see how beautiful
he is in his recent photos .I will be very pleased to get more
assurance within your reply
i cant afford to keep him here in Cameroon again as i had thought before
bringing him here .
Accept my regards
Here is the second email I got from them
Hi. I am glad you are a petlover and i will be waiting on the pictures of your barn and pasture please do not fail to send them to me ?i have no doubts about the type of home Toby will be going towith your experience in riding.Good Toby will suit your plans using him for dressage and Endurance so you can be rest assured that he will be fine in that domain.I am so pleased to see that Toby got a lovely home back to the States because i was running in fear of lossing him too so hope you will take good care of Toby, The adoption process will begin as soon we receive your details so that documents will be made to your names and sent to you for verification and confirmation,then i will arrange for the delivery of Toby to your location in the United States .Toby is Gelding,he is well started under saddle and coming along wonderfully, W/T/C both directions, starting to work on collection.
We also have been out on the road and the trail.
Get back to us with your complet detail information for registration and reservation at the animal cargo department. Toby to be shipped and delivered directly to your home .
Your full names…………….
house address……………..
city and postal code…………
telephone number…………..
Nearset airport ……………..
I will be waiting your reply with these details. He will be coming with some of his accessories that is his bridle and his saddle and a disk that talk about his diet .
I wait for your reply.
My family extends regards to your family
Thanks
Well this scammer just got an earfull from me. They were on dreamhorse.com and made a comment about some bren daker so i thought id google them yeah well it brought me to this posting about the scam artist. So after reading everyones stories, I realized I was just scammed. Felt like crap and went and emailed the scammer back! Be careful on dreamhorse y’all for the friesans that say ,,,,,,,,,,, or xxxxxxxxxxxxx, or ooooooooooooooo cuz thats the scammer, with the name pay nash! It sucks! Good luck all!
This is what i got, everyone should be very careful!
DONT EVER GIVE PERSONAL INFORMATION OVER EMAIL!!!
Hi,thank you for the interest in my horse Jeanna.I just want to tell
you that he is still available right now.Yes this horse is currently
in US.He trailers well and is good for farrier,vet,etc.He has 2-3
times riding per week but he is ready to go even 5 time per week . He
is regular on his vet and his shots are up to date .He has all his
paper work done.This horse has been trained for trail riding,
show,dressage and is undergoing his 2nd dressage level .He has also
been ridden western and English. He has a gentle personality and will
do well with kids and other house pets.He is good for beginner and
intermediate riders. He is very friendly and playful to them.He is DNA
tested , can take voice command and he does not easily become spoke
and is broke to ride,even a seven year old child can handle him. He is
a good listener to his rider and love to be taken out for a ride.He is
very sound and ok in health , no vices and he has never been ill nor
injured .He has never been affected by any disease due to the fact
that his vaccines are given regularly. If your looking for a dressage
,show or trail gelding , it doesn’t get any better than this.Jeanna is
very much dressage type,an eager student and very willing to work hard
for his rider and also willing to learn . I don’t say these things
lightly as they are not easy things to do but Jeanna is really that
special. He has lots of professional training including clinics with
late Bren Daker.No regret to anyone who is going to have Jeanna . In
fact,he is going to make a perfect family member . I just want to ask
if you have ever owned a horse and for how long? I will a also like to
know where you live so that I can invite you to my place for viewing
and pickup of Jeanna . I will also like to know how soon you will want
to adopt this my horse? I will be waiting to hear from you soon
this is a scam the horse and woman are the same as on the kim and velma horses which we know from expirience are scams it seems ligit untill the shipping company based out of cameron contacts you wanting a $1000 to fly them to you!! do not respond to any ads for two friesins for adoption they are the same people!!! do not be fooled!!
This is what I have been dealing with – same situation. Same photos I believe. See this email:
Hey There,
i am sorry for the late reply to your inquiry in regards to the black
friesian gelding seeking a new home.my laptop has been given
me problems.This is to let you know that the horse is still
available.the horse in question is call Rokie and he lives with us.He
has Beautiful conformation,tall perfect quality legs (fully X-Rayed )
and those typical Friesian looks.
He is call Rokie.Permit me tell you some details about Rokie.was born
on may 2001.Rokie has been worked with from birth and has wonderful
manners, ground, stable, and saddle.
He has been trail-ridden extensively, and crosses water,covered
bridges, rides alone or with others.Rokie was trained to drive by me
as a 2 years old.he is 15.3HH now and loves taking rides.We are
presently here in OREGON together with Rokie
for a 9 months church project
and we just rented a home here at River Rd S, Salem, OREGON, 97302.
We have plans on staying here for sometime.you are more than welcome
to visit us at any moment.we are a very welcoming family.We are giving
the horse up for adoption because my
17yrs old daughter (Tracey) who was taking care of him passed away
months ago through a car accident when she was on her way back from
her piano classes.So the occupying nature of my job does not permit me
to keep Rokie. Giving Rokie out to another home will be a way of
wiping Tracey’s memories from my head which is making me disturbed
each time i think of her. To adopt him,i will like to know this from
you.
Why are do you want a horse? Did you always love horses as a child
and now that you are an adult, you want to fulfill your own dream?
Are you the parent of a horse crazy child who has been asking for the
proverbial pony at every gift-giving occasion since the age of 2?
Whatever your reason you wish to adopt Rokie, make sure that you are
prepared for all
aspects of ownership. Are you prepared to pay the upkeep, which may
include unexpected vet bills? Are you willing to live with limitations
on your time if your boarding facility requires you to do stall
cleaning? If you want to keep the horse at home, are you prepared
for even more time limitations and the extra hassle of finding
qualified help to take care
of the horse while you are away?. The amount of time you have
available to spend on horse
activities should also be examined. If your time is limited to only
1-2 times a week for a
few hours. These are questions that only you can answer for yourself.
It is vital that you
go into this process of adopting Rokie with your eyes open to all
aspects of horse ownership
If you have decided that yes, you and your family have the time and
economic resources for a horse like Rokie.
Ok, now you know why you want Rokie, what you want to do with him and
how much you want to spend?another vital resource is having
veterinarian. It is almost always a good idea to have a
horse vet checked before you take it. This is no guarantee that the
horse has no medical
problems, but can reduce the chance that you will be stuck with an
unsound horse..If you have any more questions to ask, just
let me know.will also like to know when you will like to have him.
attached to this mail are the pics of the horse.He
Do have a nice day and get back to me at your Convenience.
if i have to arrange for transportation
he will be safe as he will come along with people who
will take great care of him as he gets to your
home , he will just be so comfortable and we both have to work out
this.You are to pay just $700 which is for transfer of ownership document and transportation to your location..
the horse was given to us free by our family friend rev matt demont
and we promise him we shall give
Rokie free to another home if we decide to part away with him
.anyway just let me know if this is okay with you
Hey There,
i am sorry for the late reply to your inquiry in regards to the black
friesian gelding seeking a new home.my laptop has been given
me problems.This is to let you know that the horse is still
available.the horse in question is call Rokie and he lives with us.He
has Beautiful conformation,tall perfect quality legs (fully X-Rayed )
and those typical Friesian looks.
He is call Rokie.Permit me tell you some details about Rokie.was born
on may 2001.Rokie has been worked with from birth and has wonderful
manners, ground, stable, and saddle.
He has been trail-ridden extensively, and crosses water,covered
bridges, rides alone or with others.Rokie was trained to drive by me
as a 2 years old.he is 15.3HH now and loves taking rides.We are
presently here in OREGON together with Rokie
for a 9 months church project
and we just rented a home here at River Rd S, Salem, OREGON, 97302.
We have plans on staying here for sometime.you are more than welcome
to visit us at any moment.we are a very welcoming family.We are giving
the horse up for adoption because my
17yrs old daughter (Tracey) who was taking care of him passed away
months ago through a car accident when she was on her way back from
her piano classes.So the occupying nature of my job does not permit me
to keep Rokie. Giving Rokie out to another home will be a way of
wiping Tracey’s memories from my head which is making me disturbed
each time i think of her. To adopt him,i will like to know this from
you.
Why are do you want a horse? Did you always love horses as a child
and now that you are an adult, you want to fulfill your own dream?
Are you the parent of a horse crazy child who has been asking for the
proverbial pony at every gift-giving occasion since the age of 2?
Whatever your reason you wish to adopt Rokie, make sure that you are
prepared for all
aspects of ownership. Are you prepared to pay the upkeep, which may
include unexpected vet bills? Are you willing to live with limitations
on your time if your boarding facility requires you to do stall
cleaning? If you want to keep the horse at home, are you prepared
for even more time limitations and the extra hassle of finding
qualified help to take care
of the horse while you are away?. The amount of time you have
available to spend on horse
activities should also be examined. If your time is limited to only
1-2 times a week for a
few hours. These are questions that only you can answer for yourself.
It is vital that you
go into this process of adopting Rokie with your eyes open to all
aspects of horse ownership
If you have decided that yes, you and your family have the time and
economic resources for a horse like Rokie.
Ok, now you know why you want Rokie, what you want to do with him and
how much you want to spend?another vital resource is having
veterinarian. It is almost always a good idea to have a
horse vet checked before you take it. This is no guarantee that the
horse has no medical
problems, but can reduce the chance that you will be stuck with an
unsound horse..If you have any more questions to ask, just
let me know.will also like to know when you will like to have him.
attached to this mail are the pics of the horse.He
Do have a nice day and get back to me at your Convenience.
if i have to arrange for transportation
he will be safe as he will come along with people who
will take great care of him as he gets to your
home , he will just be so comfortable and we both have to work out
this.You are to pay just $700 which is for transfer of ownership document and transportation to your location..
the horse was given to us free by our family friend rev matt demont
and we promise him we shall give
Rokie free to another home if we decide to part away with him
.anyway just let me know if this is okay with you
OMG! my daughter found “Rokie” (if thats his name) on some random website.he replied and said the same exact thing! EXACT! WHAT A PHONY! im going to report him!
a local lady purchsed this horse and had a very ancient and dead lame QH delivered to her door. horse was also purchased by 2 others one of whom decided to give the poor horse a home – all 3 paid $5000 plus shipping.
FBI looking into this large “horse scam cartel” who operate interstate, Interesting that the horse is now “free” and the shipping and registration combined cost less than shipping alone should cost. If it sounds too good to be true … it probably is
I’m from South Africa and lost my horse due to a freak accident! I saw the ad for the adoption for a friesian horse and could not believe my luck. The “owner” e-mail me and said the horse was situated in Botswana and the registration and transport wil be ZAR 1,500. I also had a e-mail from the transport company to arrange the delivery. Is there a way to find out if this also is a scam? The shipping company claims to be from USA. They claim to transport horses from North East REgion of USA. The name is Equine Shippers Transport Agency. The owner is “Corie Marshall”. The Company’s physical address in Botswana is Export Street Branch, Douala, Littoral Region, Cameroon.
Hi I replied to a guy who was from Lansing,MI and had a Freisian mare named Scot. In his reply he said that the horse (“Rex”)was a gelding currently in Kansas for a “program” and that he would send him to me for $800 which was for delivery. I felt this was fishy and did some online research – typed the horse’s name into google and this web page came up. It was funny, but he sent the same reply to another person with a different horse name “Rokie”, and so I know it was a scam now. I am appreciative to the people who posted comments to this page becuase it saved me from getting scammed!
Thank You!
I saw the ad this morning, and as soon as I got the email response I was suspicious. Did some googling and found this wonderful site.
I found the ad on wikihorseworld. Here is the link:
http://www.wikihorseworld.com/classifieds/horse/ea50aff8/2009/Pure_black_friesian_gelding_for_sale.htm
They are calling it “Rokie”, and the location has changed from PA to Oregon. The email they sent me stuff from is donaldmcrolland@hotmail.com
I’m not going to post the email they sent me (because it is already on the site), but they are using a sob story of her daughter being killed in an accident, and saying that they are working on a “church project” right now.
Please beware! I didn’t give them any information because I was suspicious, but I would hate for a genuine horse lover to be out money because of these jerks.
Thanks for posting this stuff!